Terrorists are on the rampage in Paris

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15 Nov 2015, 1:21 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Nope, not Maronite, Atheists, from a Shia Muslim family.

Listen, if you are Shia, you should be the FIRST to denounce ISIS. Think of the atrocities they have wrecked on your people ? What is with you supporting them ?

Boo in fact has been making Anti-ISIS statements here on WP for some time.

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15 Nov 2015, 3:16 am

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You literally are jumping to conclusions that all involved were all muslims.

Only two shooter are identified.
One is a French man born in the suburbs of Paris was 29, with a criminal record with no history of religious based activities.
The other was Syrian born 35 year old who was probably muslim.

The 29-yr-old "Frenchman" has been identified as Omar Mostefai of Algerian heritage who is believed to have been radicalized in 2010 and is suspected to have gone on a "trip" to Syria in 2014.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34825080

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15 Nov 2015, 4:36 am

HisMom wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Nope, not Maronite, Atheists, from a Shia Muslim family.

Listen, if you are Shia, you should be the FIRST to denounce ISIS. Think of the atrocities they have wrecked on your people ? What is with you supporting them ?

What's wrong with you? Where did I say that I support them?

I was just telling him that not all religious conflicts were between Muslims vs others, but almost all religions had conflicts between each other.

Understand what you are reading without jumping to false conclusions.

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15 Nov 2015, 4:38 am

Why ISIS never attacks Israel? Hmm

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15 Nov 2015, 5:19 am

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An Egyptian passport was also found near the body of a suicide bomber who detonated his vest outside the Stade de France.

Of what material this passport is made of? o.O

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15 Nov 2015, 6:55 am

Ce mec a tout compris, à écouter attentivement:

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15 Nov 2015, 7:10 am

"Sometimes the best answer in these situations is to say that we are going to grit our teeth; we are going to champion the open, intellectual, free, pluralistic, tolerant nature of our society that we are so proud of, and that so contrasts with yours; in the face of your challenge."

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15 Nov 2015, 8:47 am

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Why ISIS never attacks Israel? Hmm

That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

It's like ISIS and Israel exist in separate universes. Israel is aware of ISIS and uses it as arguments all the time when they cry for sympathy, but ISIS has not once mentioned Israel.

You hear all the time about how arabs and muslims supposedly are so "anti-semitic" yet not one jew has been attacked by ISIS, not one attack or even threat against Israel.

So the big question is: who benefits from ISIS? Surely, Israel appreciates ISIS as a good reason for the U.S to terrorize Israels neighbors. A nice supplement to the military aid they already receive from the U.S.

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15 Nov 2015, 10:16 am

I assume that there are conditions attached to the American aid that preclude Israel from getting involved.
IS attacking Israel would provoke all out war in the region.

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15 Nov 2015, 10:22 am

On a recent trip to Israel, we noted that there were many young people in full military uniform and carrying automatic weapons. They were at the bus stops, the tourist stops, the cafes, and even in the market-places. They were friendly enough, posing for pictures with the tourists (I have one with me flanked by two female soldiers) while at least one stood off to the side, at the ready.

Israel requires two years of military service for its citizens, men and women, with few exceptions. They are disciplined and trained for combat, and are real soldiers in every sense of the word. Thus, nearly every Israeli adult citizen is part of "a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" in the most ideal sense. This, coupled with their border security and responsible gun-control laws, means that trouble-makers and Jew-haters rarely make much trouble for very long.

In other words, the most likely reason that the Islamic State is not attacking Israel is because they are afraid to - they know that they would not succeed, and would likely be mowed down long before ever achieving their goals.

All of you Jew-haters should think about that the next time you meet an Israeli Jew.

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15 Nov 2015, 10:34 am

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Israel requires two years of military service for its citizens, men and women, with few exceptions.

It's actually a lifetime of service, until the age of 40 or 45, after conscription is completed everyone enters the reserve forces.

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15 Nov 2015, 10:41 am

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Israel requires two years of military service for its citizens, men and women, with few exceptions.

It's actually a lifetime of service, until the age of 40 or 45, after conscription is completed everyone enters the reserve forces.

Yeah, you're right. I should have done a quick check of the facts before relying on memory only. Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

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Men drafted as of July 2015 and later will serve 2 years and 8 months (32 months), with some roles requiring an additional 4 months of Permanent service. Women serve two years. The IDF women who volunteer for several combat positions often serve for three years, due to the longer period of training. Women in other positions, such as programmers, who also require lengthy training time, may also serve three years.

Here in the States, we have active-duty, reserve, and "retired" veterans everywhere - many of whom are well-armed and well-trained - forming our own "well-regulated militia". We need more ... just like Israel.

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15 Nov 2015, 11:28 am

Fnord wrote:

That was my Pastor's impression when he visited Israel.

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15 Nov 2015, 11:47 am

Fnord wrote:

neilson_wheels wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Israel requires two years of military service for its citizens, men and women, with few exceptions.

It's actually a lifetime of service, until the age of 40 or 45, after conscription is completed everyone enters the reserve forces.

Yeah, you're right. I should have done a quick check of the facts before relying on memory only. Here's what Wikipedia has to say:

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I spent some time in Israel in the 90's. At that time, everyone in the IDF Reserve was called up for re-training and active duty every year. Obviously the situation was different at that time where Israel had occupied the Southern half of Lebanon.

Also from Wikipedia:

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The IDF may call up reservists for:
- Reserve service of up to one month every three years, until the age of 40 (enlisted) or 45 (officers). Reservists may volunteer after this age, with approval of the Manpower Directorate.
- Immediate active duty in war time.

Fnord wrote:

Just out of interest, in the US after active duty is there an obligation to join the Reserve?

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15 Nov 2015, 11:57 am

Why hasn't Islamic State attacked Israel? Bashar al-Assad. Israel is pretty small and puts a lot into its security obvious so they're always on guard but it would of bee nightmare if ISIS gained the whole of Syria.

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15 Nov 2015, 12:18 pm

Fnord wrote:

In other words, the most likely reason that the Islamic State is not attacking Israel is because they are afraid to - they know that they would not succeed, and would likely be mowed down long before ever achieving their goals.

All of you Jew-haters should think about that the next time you meet an Israeli Jew.

U.S politicians have slipped on several occasions admitting that they are funding the rebels. ISIS leaders have admitted it under interrogation:

Yeah, who benefits from ISIS again?

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