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27 Dec 2019, 6:15 pm

SoloSailor wrote:

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Yeah but they're the ones with colored spiky line charts.

Some of those might be a wee bit inconvenient to the Alarmist narrative:

And remember: Scale matters.

I stand corrected.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:17 pm

EzraS wrote:

I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:33 pm

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I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

Keep chiseling away, I'm starting to crumble.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:33 pm

beneficii wrote:

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:35 pm

Shhhh, they're trying to gaslight me, don't break the spell.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:40 pm

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

Keep chiseling away, I'm starting to crumble.

Do you know why I said you were ignorant? Hint, it isn't a vendetta.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:43 pm

SoloSailor wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/mar/25/one-satellite-data-set-is-underestimating-global-warming

https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_John_Christy.htm

SoloSailor wrote:

https://lefthandpalm.blogspot.com/2013/04/dodgy-cliff-and-randy-mann.html

SoloSailor wrote:

And remember: Scale matters.

This is not pertinent: more so the left graphic is easier to read, which is why it's presented that way.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:44 pm

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

Keep chiseling away, I'm starting to crumble.

Do you know why I said you were ignorant? Hint, it isn't a vendetta.

Do you know why that person posted a picture of a irony meter? Hint, it's because you display ignorance.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:48 pm

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

Keep chiseling away, I'm starting to crumble.

Do you know why I said you were ignorant? Hint, it isn't a vendetta.

Do you know why that person posted a picture of a irony meter? Hint, it's because you display a lot of ignorance.

You'll forgive me if I'm not impressed when someone who doesn't understand the function of temperature reconstruction charts (who called them "spiky charts", as if they were some meaningless thing) calls me ignorant. You know, this kind of chart:

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27 Dec 2019, 6:50 pm

Thanks, Tollorin. It can get pretty painstaking to rebut each little point, especially when it's repeated over and over again, as if if it's presented 10 times but rebutted only 9, then it wins.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:53 pm

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

beneficii wrote:

EzraS wrote:

I stand corrected.

And here's somebody presenting his ignorance of science as a plus.

Keep chiseling away, I'm starting to crumble.

Do you know why I said you were ignorant? Hint, it isn't a vendetta.

Do you know why that person posted a picture of a irony meter? Hint, it's because you display a lot of ignorance.

No, he called you ignorant. Try to follow along.

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27 Dec 2019, 6:55 pm

beneficii wrote:

Thanks, Tollorin. It can get pretty painstaking to rebut each little point, especially when it's repeated over and over again, as if if it's presented 10 times but rebutted only 9, then it wins.

Looks like it's time for another busted irony meter pic.

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27 Dec 2019, 7:17 pm

Tollorin wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... al-warming
https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_John_Christy.htm
https://lefthandpalm.blogspot.com/2013/ ... -mann.html

The paper referenced in The Guardian is several years out of date. The data have since been corrected.

Your second reference is a partisan blog that uses circular reasoning (eg, quoting themselves) in an attempt to discredit any scientist that questions the CAGW narrative.

Your third reference is also another partisan blog- and a rather rambling one at that- but doesn't really have anything meaningful to say about the chart and utterly misses the point.

Tollorin wrote:

This is not pertinent: more so the left graphic is easier to read, which is why it's presented that way.

It's actually quite pertinent as the purpose of propaganda is to stir up emotions and suppress critical thought. Displaying a minor temperature increase as a big, scary hockey stick is deliberately calculated to do just that.

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27 Dec 2019, 7:35 pm

The reason why I say spiky line charts is because it's evident that in several cases someone just googled up stuff that looks impressive to them.

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27 Dec 2019, 7:35 pm

SoloSailor wrote:

Tollorin wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... al-warming
https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_John_Christy.htm
https://lefthandpalm.blogspot.com/2013/ ... -mann.html

Tollorin wrote:

This is not pertinent: more so the left graphic is easier to read, which is why it's presented that way.

I guess this would be impressive if I actually knew what your point was, since you never laid it out clearly, relying instead mostly on out of context graphs. Would you care stating your point?

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27 Dec 2019, 7:36 pm

An unamed poster made it appear that a flatline graph isn't impressive by sneakily stretching the celcius scale on the y-axis. Obviously assumes we are ignorant and that manipulating line graphs will make an impression.

So lets leave the world of fraudulent pseudoscientists parading in clown costumes for our amusement and return to hard science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2458/why- ... -big-deal/

Minor fluctuation in global temperature has major impact.

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