Terrorists are on the rampage in Paris

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ISIS is believed to getting "help" from Israel in some fashion.
It wouldn't be the first time Israel has helped a group that terrorizes their neighbors.
I mean Israel did help create and arm Hamas just so it would terrorize Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, and Jordan.
Israel sent Mossad to bring back the founders of Hamas from exile in exchange for Israel's help.
It worked Hama split the PLO, stopping Palestine from becoming unified behind FATAH and PLO

Hamas only turned against Israel, when Israel cut them off and started monitoring their activities closely.

Once Israel moves against ISIS and stops the supposed "help", ISIS will turn on Israel.

It's really up to Israel to decide whether or not to help ISIS or go to war against them.

They saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

So the President had a brain fart and misspoke. I hardly see that as an admission to anything at all, as there's nothing there to admit to.
As for the previous video - I fail to see how that implicates involvement by the US government. All was admitted to was that certain American Imams have financed ISIS recruitment.

Evidence, please?


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As the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy; no more, and no less." -- Maxim 29, of "The 70 Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries", by Howard Tayler

Maxim 30 is, "A little trust goes a long way; the less you use, the further you will go."

... words to live by ...

Other golden words to live by :

"Be kind to EVERYONE you meet, for they may be carrying a load that you may unaware of".

The talk of trust from someone who routinely operates in a bait-and-switch manner in this very forum, with little kindness / compassion / empathy for and to those in difficult situations, is ironical at best, and hypocritical at worst.

Belief proves nothing. Check the facts.

Good points. These Dirka Dirkas have shown themselves to be anything BUT allies! Calling them unreliable allies is an understatement because by their actions in the last 30 years they are by far the worst enemies of the West. Don't believe me Xenocity? You act like 9/11 never happened.

Seems to me that killing up to 100 kids at a rock\metal concert has accomplished nothing politically or religiously.....what did they accomplish?

Seems to me that Islam is the scarf-wearing women and girls all over my city, going to school and work, the Muslim men working to support their families, not people focusing their time and effort to hurt people.

Jesus did not kill anyone, nor did Buddha, nor did Baha'ulla, nor, Ghandi, nor, I believe, did Muhammad.....

If their believers walked in their steps instead of what someone SAYS to do in their name, wouldn't this wretchedness end?

Muhammad led his followers into battle on numerous occasions, and once ordered the assassination of an enemy. If you've been thinking of him as a sort of Jesus-like figure, preaching peace, love, and self-sacrifice, you really need to read the Quran. It is a story of war and bloody conquest.

It doesn't make sense to sane people. The whole damnable point of terror is to senselessly kill innocent people in order to say: I want something, and I'll hurt as many people as possible to make you bend to my will.

IS wouldn't put much effort into attacking Israel because:

Israel does a good job with its borders and security
Israel isn't attacking them
Israel is actively fighting the enemy of IS (Shiite Muslims), which leads to:
IS hates Shiite Muslims more than the Jewish

IS is mostly ex-Iraqi military leaders (Baathists) and Iraqi Sunnis. Not much love for Shiites there, nor much love for the "crusaders" (the latter put them out of power in Iraq, and also brought the Sunni/Shiite civil war to Iraq in their minds).

This makes sense.

and for the second part, I posted this in the other thread:

The finding of the passports near the bombers' bodies needs a Mythbusters episode: Can a passport survive a vest explosion?

I was told there was a documentary talking about suicide bombers are often are found half body, sometimes the upper part of the body fly up, so if a passport was in his top pocket then it might remain intact.

those ## passports always !
who's going to carry a passport on suicide mission? his/her own? sure...?

ID cards are pretty strong and light. I can see them ending up as relatively intact shrapnel (not to mention usually being in a wallet). You'd need a really big boom to make them effectively disappear or a prolonged fire.

You'd carry one in case you need to show ID. Not much point in hiding your ID when you blow yourself up, and you also want it known that your crew did it.

As many of the terrorists had been recently in Belgium prior to returning to France, that might explain why they had had their passports on their persons.