08 Oct 2020, 7:10 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't get how there are australians of all people, who love trumpoleeney. that makes my mind go "TILT!"*
*does not compute.*
*does not compute.*
I don't understand how someone looking for facts gets these sorts of claims made about them...
Looking for facts, rather than unfounded assertions (or lies) presented as "facts" should be the aim of any intelligent person... Believing unfounded claims because they match what a person wants to hear just demonstrates the levels of gullibility that exist within society - Creating, or passing on, these unfounded claims simply demonstrates intellectual dishonesty.
Similarly, just because a person is challenging what YOU wish to believe does not mean they do not agree with your view of the subject being discussed, it could simply indicate that they have the intellectual capacity to understand that not everything that is presented which favours a given side will be true, and so wish to be confident in the facts regarding the subject...Though to many, "ignorance is bliss", sadly.
Dude, that is trolling right there you just mentioned. You agree with someone's view but you still decide to argue with them anyway about it acting like you don't agree.
02 The Persistent Debate Troll
I haven't followed this thread in detail, but I don't see how fact-finding and the pursuit of clarity is ever wrong.
What I do know is the character of Brictoria.
He is someone I respect for his critical thinking skills.
League_Girl wrote:
This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong.
For clarity's sake, are you calling Brictoria a troll?
Also, as I said previously, I haven't followed this tread to any great degree, but I see no evidence that Brictoria is arguing against people.
He is asking for clarification.
Please copy and paste where Brictoria is presenting a political argument.
Also, don't you think it a little naive to automatically accept information presented without applying one's own critical thinking tools/skills?
Here in Australia, we generally don't automatically accept what is presented.
Well, those with an open mind, at least.
League_Girl wrote:
You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-inter ... ls-3485894
Sound familiar?
https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-inter ... ls-3485894
Sound familiar?
So you think Brictoria is attempting to disrupt the thread?
I don't see how a desire to validate people's claims can be trolling.
Therefore,
I respectfully I disagree with your POV.
08 Oct 2020, 9:26 pm
08 Oct 2020, 9:33 pm
Trolls have about as much self-restraint as a bowling ball. I think it's pretty easy to read for comprehension, not dramedy.
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08 Oct 2020, 10:34 pm
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Brictoria wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i don't get how there are australians of all people, who love trumpoleeney. that makes my mind go "TILT!"*
*does not compute.*
*does not compute.*
I don't understand how someone looking for facts gets these sorts of claims made about them...
Looking for facts, rather than unfounded assertions (or lies) presented as "facts" should be the aim of any intelligent person... Believing unfounded claims because they match what a person wants to hear just demonstrates the levels of gullibility that exist within society - Creating, or passing on, these unfounded claims simply demonstrates intellectual dishonesty.
Similarly, just because a person is challenging what YOU wish to believe does not mean they do not agree with your view of the subject being discussed, it could simply indicate that they have the intellectual capacity to understand that not everything that is presented which favours a given side will be true, and so wish to be confident in the facts regarding the subject...Though to many, "ignorance is bliss", sadly.
Dude, that is trolling right there you just mentioned. You agree with someone's view but you still decide to argue with them anyway about it acting like you don't agree.
02 The Persistent Debate Troll
I haven't followed this thread in detail, but I don't see how fact-finding and the pursuit of clarity is ever wrong.
What I do know is the character of Brictoria.
He is someone I respect for his critical thinking skills.
League_Girl wrote:
This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong.
For clarity's sake, are you calling Brictoria a troll?
Also, as I said previously, I haven't followed this tread to any great degree, but I see no evidence that Brictoria is arguing against people.
He is asking for clarification.
Please copy and paste where Brictoria is presenting a political argument.
Also, don't you think it a little naive to automatically accept information presented without applying one's own critical thinking tools/skills?
Here in Australia, we generally don't automatically accept what is presented.
Well, those with an open mind, at least.
League_Girl wrote:
You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-inter ... ls-3485894
Sound familiar?
https://www.lifewire.com/types-of-inter ... ls-3485894
Sound familiar?
So you think Brictoria is attempting to disrupt the thread?
I don't see how a desire to validate people's claims can be trolling.
Therefore,
I respectfully I disagree with your POV.
If you argue with someone you actually agree with, that is a definition of a troll. Perhaps you disagree with that definition?
I read that part of his comment as him admitting it. If he doesn't do that, he can take my post as me telling him that is trolling when anyone does it.
And he does come off to me as thinking everyone else is wrong and he is right and will keep arguing and calling everyone dishonest who doesn't agree with him. Isnt that a bit trollish you think?
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08 Oct 2020, 10:35 pm
League_Girl wrote:
And he does come off to me as thinking everyone else is wrong and everyone else is right and will keep arguing and calling everyone dishonest who doesn't agree with him. Isnt that a bit trollish you think?
He's clever in the way he does it though. Flies under the radar
08 Oct 2020, 10:40 pm
08 Oct 2020, 10:42 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe has me misquoted, i did not write that piece, it was from the article I got it from in the url I posted.
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
Apologies.
Which part?
08 Oct 2020, 10:48 pm
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe has me misquoted, i did not write that piece, it was from the article I got it from in the url I posted.
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
Apologies.
Which part?
This part here:
Quote:
This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
This was quote from the article on the lifewire website in the article 10 Types of Trolls You'll Meet Online.
I copied and pasted it in my post and made it into a quote and also posted the url as a source I got it from.
08 Oct 2020, 10:49 pm
From what I understand, you offered an article in support of your argument.
My assumption was that you agreed with what was in the article.
Are you saying you don't?
Then why post the link?
08 Oct 2020, 10:50 pm
cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
And he does come off to me as thinking everyone else is wrong and everyone else is right and will keep arguing and calling everyone dishonest who doesn't agree with him. Isnt that a bit trollish you think?
He's clever in the way he does it though. Flies under the radar
Maybe I have a troll radar
I have gotten better at picking up on it online and that has saved me a lot of drama online. I used to get into it often and it would always stress me out.
08 Oct 2020, 10:51 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe has me misquoted, i did not write that piece, it was from the article I got it from in the url I posted.
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
My original post here:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=391083&start=192#p8629319
Apologies.
Which part?
This part here:
Quote:
This type of troll loves a good argument. They can take a great, thoroughly researched and fact-based piece of content, and come at it from all opposing discussion angles to challenge its message.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
They believe they're right, and everyone else is wrong. You'll often also find them leaving long threads or arguments with other commenters in community comment sections, and they're always determined to have the last word – continuing to comment until that other user gives up.
This was quote from the article on the lifewire website in the article 10 Types of Trolls You'll Meet Online.
I copied and pasted it in my post and made it into a quote and also posted the url as a source I got it from.
Again, why did you post the article if you didn't agree with it?
08 Oct 2020, 10:52 pm
League_Girl wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
And he does come off to me as thinking everyone else is wrong and everyone else is right and will keep arguing and calling everyone dishonest who doesn't agree with him. Isnt that a bit trollish you think?
He's clever in the way he does it though. Flies under the radar
Maybe I have a troll radar
I have gotten better at picking up on it online and that has saved me a lot of drama online. I used to get into it often and it would always stress me out.
So you *are* calling Brictoria a troll?
Which troll is on your radar?
08 Oct 2020, 10:55 pm
Pepe wrote:
From what I understand, you offered an article in support of your argument.
My assumption was that you agreed with what was in the article.
Are you saying you don't?
Then why post the link?
My assumption was that you agreed with what was in the article.
Are you saying you don't?
Then why post the link?
The link was posted so people here would know where I got that from and because it is not my words. I stumbled upon that article by mistake when I was reading about internet trolls and then I read this thread again when it got new responses and I saw his post where he mentioned about people arguing with you does not mean they don't agree with you.
I already knew these sort of trolls existed, they just argue just to argue. I am not the only person online who has said these people who think they are always right and just argue to be right are trolls. I just avoid them. No point in getting into a discussion with them. They're not going to change their minds so why argue?
08 Oct 2020, 11:03 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
From what I understand, you offered an article in support of your argument.
My assumption was that you agreed with what was in the article.
Are you saying you don't?
Then why post the link?
My assumption was that you agreed with what was in the article.
Are you saying you don't?
Then why post the link?
The link was posted so people here would know where I got that from and because it is not my words. I stumbled upon that article by mistake when I was reading about internet trolls and then I read this thread again when it got new responses and I saw his post where he mentioned about people arguing with you does not mean they don't agree with you.
I already knew these sort of trolls existed, they just argue just to argue. I am not the only person online who has said these people who think they are always right and just argue to be right are trolls. I just avoid them. No point in getting into a discussion with them. They're not going to change their minds so why argue?
So, once again I will ask:
Are you saying Brictoria is a troll?
Also:
I suspect, when Brictoria said he was arguing, he meant arguing for clarification, rather than arguing against an assertion.
Could you cut-and-paste where he said he was arguing with the premise of someone's position?
08 Oct 2020, 11:11 pm
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