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02 Apr 2011, 10:19 pm
02 Apr 2011, 11:11 pm
@ Draelynn, well it was predicted years ago that a virus was planned to be engineered to target Chinese people. It is talked about in the 'Anglo Saxon Mission'. It is maybe true or is maybe not but it does seem very coincidental to this.
Video here if anyone is interested:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY[/youtube]
@John Browning, we shall just need to wait and see then. Placebo's have made groups of people extremely ill in the past.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6534081.stm
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02 Apr 2011, 11:20 pm
John_Browning wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
ZeroGravitas wrote:
You mean this urban legend? http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/pinprick.asp
I thought it would be common knowledge by now that that whole thing was an urban legend? lol. Oh well.
If that true then it is truly a relief. It is strange to think that the placebo effect could cause the much trouble, but I've heard of similar stories actually.
Its typical homophobic tripe perpetuated by some whitebread cracker a**holes living in a redneck paradise. In the early 80s AIDS was referred to as 'Gay Cancer' among other ignorant things. The truth is it is a cousin to the SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) and probably began as a result of poor vaccination culture techniques in certain areas of Africa where SIV is common. SIV is not a 'homosexual ape phenomenon', so when I hear ignorant statements such as AIDS/HIV being somehow only related to gay people, I can't help but laugh at their ignorance. We have to share our world with some stupid, stupid people unfortunately
It might have been in '96 that I heard about it and it wasn't over the internet. Internet access wasn't quite widespread yet.
And yes, it is very much a gay disease. According to a 2004 CDC report the percentage of new AIDS cases due to homosexuality accounted for 60% of the cases for adult males. That number goes up to 2/3 of all new adult male cases if you count homosexuals that use IV drugs. That's quite a feat for such a tiny demographic group.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/surveillance/resources/reports/2004report/pdf/table9.pdf
I don't debate that a lot of gay people have gotten AIDS, but blaming AIDS on homosexuality is my problem. The issue is promiscuity. I think one reason the risk is greater to homosexuals is some might not feel that 'protection' is necessary due to the obvious fact that there is no risk of conception. Now I know many homosexual people who are very STD conscious but like all demographics there are outliers and ignorant/uninformed people.
There is correlation but that does not imply causation. Anyways I wasn't trying to insult you there, I just noticed that maybe you could have gotten that impression. Sorry John, wasn't referring to you
02 Apr 2011, 11:41 pm
Vigilans wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
ZeroGravitas wrote:
You mean this urban legend? http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/pinprick.asp
I thought it would be common knowledge by now that that whole thing was an urban legend? lol. Oh well.
If that true then it is truly a relief. It is strange to think that the placebo effect could cause the much trouble, but I've heard of similar stories actually.
Its typical homophobic tripe perpetuated by some whitebread cracker a**holes living in a redneck paradise. In the early 80s AIDS was referred to as 'Gay Cancer' among other ignorant things. The truth is it is a cousin to the SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) and probably began as a result of poor vaccination culture techniques in certain areas of Africa where SIV is common. SIV is not a 'homosexual ape phenomenon', so when I hear ignorant statements such as AIDS/HIV being somehow only related to gay people, I can't help but laugh at their ignorance. We have to share our world with some stupid, stupid people unfortunately
It might have been in '96 that I heard about it and it wasn't over the internet. Internet access wasn't quite widespread yet.
And yes, it is very much a gay disease. According to a 2004 CDC report the percentage of new AIDS cases due to homosexuality accounted for 60% of the cases for adult males. That number goes up to 2/3 of all new adult male cases if you count homosexuals that use IV drugs. That's quite a feat for such a tiny demographic group.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/surveillance/resources/reports/2004report/pdf/table9.pdf
I don't debate that a lot of gay people have gotten AIDS, but blaming AIDS on homosexuality is my problem. The issue is promiscuity. I think one reason the risk is greater to homosexuals is some might not feel that 'protection' is necessary due to the obvious fact that there is no risk of conception. Now I know many homosexual people who are very STD conscious but like all demographics there are outliers and ignorant/uninformed people.
There is correlation but that does not imply causation. Anyways I wasn't trying to insult you there, I just noticed that maybe you could have gotten that impression. Sorry John, wasn't referring to you
I'm assuming that CDC report is for the US? Because AIDS is not a homosexual disease in Africa - it is an unprotected sex disease that is rampant among men and women.
03 Apr 2011, 1:32 am
draelynn wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
PatrickNeville wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
ZeroGravitas wrote:
You mean this urban legend? http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/pinprick.asp
I thought it would be common knowledge by now that that whole thing was an urban legend? lol. Oh well.
If that true then it is truly a relief. It is strange to think that the placebo effect could cause the much trouble, but I've heard of similar stories actually.
Its typical homophobic tripe perpetuated by some whitebread cracker a**holes living in a redneck paradise. In the early 80s AIDS was referred to as 'Gay Cancer' among other ignorant things. The truth is it is a cousin to the SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) and probably began as a result of poor vaccination culture techniques in certain areas of Africa where SIV is common. SIV is not a 'homosexual ape phenomenon', so when I hear ignorant statements such as AIDS/HIV being somehow only related to gay people, I can't help but laugh at their ignorance. We have to share our world with some stupid, stupid people unfortunately
It might have been in '96 that I heard about it and it wasn't over the internet. Internet access wasn't quite widespread yet.
And yes, it is very much a gay disease. According to a 2004 CDC report the percentage of new AIDS cases due to homosexuality accounted for 60% of the cases for adult males. That number goes up to 2/3 of all new adult male cases if you count homosexuals that use IV drugs. That's quite a feat for such a tiny demographic group.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/surveillance/resources/reports/2004report/pdf/table9.pdf
I don't debate that a lot of gay people have gotten AIDS, but blaming AIDS on homosexuality is my problem. The issue is promiscuity. I think one reason the risk is greater to homosexuals is some might not feel that 'protection' is necessary due to the obvious fact that there is no risk of conception. Now I know many homosexual people who are very STD conscious but like all demographics there are outliers and ignorant/uninformed people.
There is correlation but that does not imply causation. Anyways I wasn't trying to insult you there, I just noticed that maybe you could have gotten that impression. Sorry John, wasn't referring to you
I'm assuming that CDC report is for the US? Because AIDS is not a homosexual disease in Africa - it is an unprotected sex disease that is rampant among men and women.
Absolutely. Tbh, to call it a 'homosexual' disease is inaccurate and probably offensive to many. Africa of course being a classic example of it running rampant
This is off topic though
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03 Apr 2011, 10:43 am
The increased risk for homosexuals is due to the nature of anal sex, which puts a person more at risk for slight tears in tissue-
heterosexuals who engage in anal sex (particularly women, obviously) are at just as much risk if not more so, if I'm not mistaken.
Also, the risk is higher for ALL IV drug users, not just gays. 
03 Apr 2011, 11:07 am
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03 Apr 2011, 11:13 am
03 Apr 2011, 11:36 am
Bethie wrote:
the world community has not stepped up to assist in helping poor African nations protect their citizens the way Americans and Europeans were.
The top 3 richest people have more money than the combined wealth of 40% of the poorer people in the world. There is definitely something wrong in the world when these rich people can't give even a few percent of their savings to provide contraception, education, health care etc.
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03 Apr 2011, 11:54 am
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03 Apr 2011, 12:41 pm
draelynn wrote:
Bethie wrote:
draelynn wrote:
It is sort of on topic...
It was suggested that AIDS was another bioengineered plague that was intended to decimate the African population. It is rather conspicuous, if this new 'AIDS-like' plague in China pans out to be a real threat. Two highly populated continents with very high numbers of disenfranchised, poverty stricken people both suddenly suffering from a deadly, contagious previously unseen disease. And governments that were very slow to respond to the threat.
Does anyone find it surpising that AIDS is now considered well controlled in the US or that the public information campaign was so virulent and well organized almost from the start? Yet, we did not share that, as a country, with the countries on the continent of origin? Africa is struggling with AIDS despite the drugs being available to treat it. And disease prevention is nearly a grass roots efforts - the world community has not stepped up to assist in helping poor African nations protect their citizens the way Americans and Europeans were.
It's all very suspicious...
It was suggested that AIDS was another bioengineered plague that was intended to decimate the African population. It is rather conspicuous, if this new 'AIDS-like' plague in China pans out to be a real threat. Two highly populated continents with very high numbers of disenfranchised, poverty stricken people both suddenly suffering from a deadly, contagious previously unseen disease. And governments that were very slow to respond to the threat.
Does anyone find it surpising that AIDS is now considered well controlled in the US or that the public information campaign was so virulent and well organized almost from the start? Yet, we did not share that, as a country, with the countries on the continent of origin? Africa is struggling with AIDS despite the drugs being available to treat it. And disease prevention is nearly a grass roots efforts - the world community has not stepped up to assist in helping poor African nations protect their citizens the way Americans and Europeans were.
It's all very suspicious...
Urm.
America and European nations ship boatloads of condoms to Africa every year- they refuse to use them.
Some of the reasons are deeply ingrained cutural beliefs... meaning much much more education is needed. Just handing out condoms isn't going to help.
Its not just that. Superstition leads many men and women there to do strange things, such as killing albino children and castrating them, then consuming their genitals as a 'cure', or crushing up anti-retroviral pills given to AIDS victims and smoking them as a means of 'immunizing'... So much ignorance..
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