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12 Apr 2011, 5:59 pm

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In Britain we have public schools (as you do in the US) but there is more freedom of choice generally in what schools permit. Schools telling parents they can't put X (whatever it is) in their packed lunches does not go down well, trust me.

Different country, different culture.

I have to wonder, though, how do schools over there handle a child with peanut allergies?

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12 Apr 2011, 6:02 pm

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Different country, different culture.

True; but some parents take a very militant stance against being lectured to.

See here. If there's one thing that many people in Britain don't like it's being talked down to by people who think they know what's good for them - see the initially popular then very lukewarm response to Jamie Oliver's school food crusade.

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12 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

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Different country, different culture.

Parents don't particularly like being told how they should be raising their children here, either. However, here in the US parents have a tendency to just drop their kid off at school and expect all learning to be done there.

Lazy is the word I would use.

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12 Apr 2011, 6:07 pm

It's much the same, possibly even more so, in Britain. Parents just do not want to engage with their kids.

However, when the school takes overtly authoritarian steps they sometimes resist, and resist forcefully (if in a rather ill-educated sense).

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12 Apr 2011, 6:10 pm

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That happens here, too. That's why bans like this make the news.

There have been news stories reporting parents throwing peanut products at the allergic kids because the school went peanut free.

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12 Apr 2011, 6:12 pm

If true, then the people who did that are sick. Just cater for those that have peanut allergies in a different way whilst respecting the majority of people who can deal with nuts. Don't punish the majority in order to exclusively suit a minority. That's the sort of thing that builds resentment.

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12 Apr 2011, 7:12 pm

I don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but in USA school is all about control and conforming.
I am an old lady now, but in my day I rebelled - take that lunch to school!! !!
In my day it was wearing no stockings with the mandatory dress, flag shirts, and sandals. Got sent home a lot.

The world is pretty stupid and screwed up - the lunch factor is pretty minor - but I hope the kids do not take it lying down.

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12 Apr 2011, 9:53 pm

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Hmmm, well... I don't know... I never quite enjoyed my lunches, made by my mom or myself... =/ And recently at the student café i worked at this session (which is imminentely ending), we've received some new products from one of our contractors, they are supposed to be in an effort to make healthier food for "kids" (that means, not targeted at young adults, but teens and lower) instead of the usual junk food cafeterias serve , and i have to say : It is delicious. o.o All the (new) sandwiches (because there are also old ones) were always gone before noon. I almost consider it an unofficial achievement to have successfully been able to taste all 3 of the new ones. =P

Also, welcome to WP, my neighbor of the south. :p

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12 Apr 2011, 10:17 pm

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They should let the kids eat whatever they want and then make the fat kids chase around the teacher who is the fastest runner wearing a flag football belt with twinkies tied to it.

I would agree with you until you realize that we ALL collectively pay for those fat kids who grow up to be fat adults and have fat related health issues. Thanks to poor individual choices we collectively pay the consequences in society.

That's why you make the fat kids get out and get their heart rate up at break, lunch, and PE.

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12 Apr 2011, 10:40 pm

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You know what? I really don't have a problem with this. If I send my children to a babysitter's house, I expect the babysitter to feed them. In the same way, children are left in the charge of schools and schools need to provide.

One problem: they are not "providing" in that sense--they expect all of the parents to pay for these lunches. If they were "provided" for no charge (which would defeat the true purpose of this proposal), that might be a different story.

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12 Apr 2011, 10:49 pm

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I figured someone would comment on this.

I have paid my babysitters for providing my children with food.

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12 Apr 2011, 10:52 pm

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conundrum wrote:

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

I figured someone would comment on this.

I have paid my babysitters for providing my children with food.

Public schools aren't supposed to nickel and dime the parents. It's supposed to be free. Your babysitters were a private arrangement.

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12 Apr 2011, 10:56 pm

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Public schools aren't supposed to nickel and dime the parents. It's supposed to be free. Your babysitters were a private arrangement.

Since when do schools not require some kind of money be spent on the part of the parents? Hell, many teachers send home lists of items they need for the classroom because the schools can't afford to provide them.

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12 Apr 2011, 11:14 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:

John_Browning wrote:

Public schools aren't supposed to nickel and dime the parents. It's supposed to be free. Your babysitters were a private arrangement.

TEGH is quoted for truth. <.< Even i as a university student, need to buy manuals and materials relevant to my field of study.

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13 Apr 2011, 3:06 am

Here in Sweden it is an offense for anyone to take anything containing nuts onto any school premises.

Also school dinners are free for all children. Parents don't get charged for anything other than through their taxes. My daughter gets her paper, pens and pencils, calculators, reading books, school trips etc at no extra cost to me.

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13 Apr 2011, 4:51 am

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Here in Sweden it is an offense for anyone to take anything containing nuts onto any school premises.

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