My pet theory on why the middle east is so uncivil

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cyberdad
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04 Jun 2011, 7:07 pm

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How about because they're savages?


I'm curious why the moderators have given this specific thread (designed to be inciting hatred) oxygen and closed down a discussion on a scientific paper?


Do please excuse us for not being omniscient.

There is a thread in the WP.net discussion forum where you can report rule breaches, or you can PM a moderator if you choose.

Raptor has been warned.


Ok no worries.
Just thinking out aloud (and sticking my neck back in)



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16 Jun 2011, 5:45 pm

I have met quite a few from the area, I find them more frendly and open than some Americans. Most Americans.

As the bank robber said, that is where the money is.

Not only the crossroads of history, but the bread basket of the world.

Egypt and Numidia fed Rome, for like the Greeks, even with 90% slaves, they could not feed themselves.

Just as the Mississippi valley was the richest part of America, and New England the poorest and most populated, They would do anything to get that wealth for themselves. Greeks, Romans, Yankees, all the same.

Large scale food production, the western end of the Silk Road, consoladated under the Turks since 1300, which is several hundred years before any known European language.

After driving out the Romans, the Crusaders, it was peaceful. That lasted till the Suez Canal, followed by the discovery of oil, and a sudden need for Mandates for European control.

There were a few early moves, the French into Algeria. a 161 year occupation, They did it to spread the French language in west Africa, so the people could become as cultured as the French. It worked, the Algerians killed them all, drove them out, and occupied France, to spread Arabic and Islam.

The Americans of course came to terms of peace and plenty with The 500 Nations.

Follow the money, all wars are about the money, land, food production, raw materials, trade routes,

The Middle East just happened to be rich, educated, well located, and peaceful,

It is what military states that spend most on a huge army are looking for. They have reduced their own land, debased their money, are bankrupt, will lose the next election, so they invade Mesopotamia. Bush did.

The Wahabis are an offshoot of the British giving guns to the Saud tribe, who then killed all other tribes, and formed the Arab Anglo oil company. Having broken every rule of Islam, they came up with a Puritan view, everyone else is wrong, only we will go to paradise.

911 was all Saudi. al Quedah is funded from there. The Wahabis are at war with everyone else. Their goal is taking over Saudi Arabia, then the world.

They also fund and arm the death to Israel groups. It is not much of a platform, That is like blaming everything on Blacks in Georgia. The religious right funds the KKK. It is how to get a Redneck to vote Republican.

I can say this in America, In Israel fanitical religious Zionest nut cases are called just that. In Saudi Arabia you and your family would disapper.

The Palestinians do deserve a State of their own. The British Mandate that gave away their land was bogus, the early settlement of Israel did include some excesses. They do have a claim to return.

The only problem is getting Jews to return to European death camps, they are a stubborn people.

Second best and possible, is use the Jew, they can get it for you wholesale!

The deal is, there is land, it used to be part of Jordon, Sryia, Egypt, that could be incorporated into a State of Palestine. As a buffer State between Israel and those getting Wahabi support, The UN would support your borders, and Israel would watch your back.

All you have to do is favor peace, and face it, you are not good at war.

You have been living on international aid, and we are broke.

Your "Leaders" have all been funded by some Wahabi front group.

You have been crossing the border into Israel for work. Those jobs could be located where you live.

War does not work, the UN has failed you, your Arab friends have chosen you to die for the cause. It is not your cause.

My advice is get tough with Israel, hire a New York Jew lawyer. While American Jews do support Israel, they also are tight with a buck, and tire of the bad press. Bringing peace to Palestine is a headline they would support.

Peace takes two, benefits both, and Israel has a labor shortage. They have the technology, you have the factory labor.

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16 Jun 2011, 8:31 pm

It does not help when the British redrew all the boundaries. They created Kuwait to spite Iraq of a coastline, and we all know how that ended up.


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16 Jun 2011, 10:29 pm

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Also look at the 2 rivers in that area tigris and the other one I cant pronounce....


Euphrates. It's not that hard. It's only three syllables. You-freight-ease.

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So this unforgiving climate, unpredictable rivers gave rise to a very a very hostile culture. The same thing can be seen in similar conditions of Africa such as the desert regions of Sudan.


By the same logic, would you characterize people living in the Great Basin or along the Mississippi River as "hostile" too?


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17 Jun 2011, 7:45 am

What about the conflict between the folks in Ireland and the folks in England. That is a long term conflict and it is not all that civil.

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