"Britain Is More Germanic Than It Thinks"

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While doubtlessly the size of the Frisian, and even Frankish, population in Britain has always been underestimated, I tend to agree with the theory that the various tribal groups tended to intermix rather than stay apart on tribal lines. We know that there had been migration from the Saxon homeland in coastal north Germany, as the region had largely been depopulated in the 5th and 6th centuries, as the flat, marshy land became increasingly a rare commodity. Though it is true that the Saxons remaining on the continent ended up expanding inland at the expense of their Thuringian and Frankish neighbors, I would not discount a significant migration to Britain earlier.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

I've known this for years. I studied old English for a little while and it's roots are very much Germanic, especially Dutch. I've not got a problem with saying I am from a Germanic country, I don't know why anyone would.

It's indeed said that Friesian is the language with most words similar to English.Whereas Dutch origins are prominent,the term "Dutch" originally meant "German" (as in modern Deutsche) so those who came from what is now Netherlands are included in the wide-ranging term Germanic,as are the Angles and Normans.

Yeah, I got that. It's still nitpicking over wording to say that in reply to what was posted. Or was it willfully ignoring the point to make your own point even though it's irrelevant? Or, maybe neither... maybe it was simple missing the point. But anyway about it, your reply is in effect saying "no that's not true", when the point being made is true, even if the wording oversimplifies the story.

Yes the great battle of Hastings in 1066 was between Harold the last great Angle (English) king and William Duke of Normandy who was French speaking Viking stock (many of the descendants in Normandy in France still retain a vague cultural affinity with Scandanavia).

The two greatest heroes of English culture are Beauwolf and Alfred represent both the Angle and Saxon rulers. I am convinced Beauwolf was a Danish speaking chieftan who ruled somewhere in the south east coast of England. His return to Jutland to fight for Hrothgar (King of the Danes) was heralded and his exploits became the stuff of legend you read in this famous folktale. Beauwulf is typical of the Angle stock who arrived in Britain around 600-900AD.

The second great English hero was Alfred (the Great). He is descended from the early Northern German tribes who migrated initially as mercanaries under the service of the Romans to fight the Scots. Alfred (or Aelfred) defined himself as king of the West Saxons. His father's name was Aethulwulf of Wessex. Alfred protected the fledgling English nation from the Norseman hordes who periodically besieged the coastline. Alfred was the first true Anglo-Saxon King.

The biggest immigrant population in Britain is the english,the Irish (haplotype R1b) are the original inhabitants of the islands.As for `terrorists`-all natives who resist foreign invaders are termed `terrorrists`.We have been in the isles for 50,000 years plus-the germans have been here since last week in historical terms.
You are being outbred by newer immigrants anyway and will be a minority in `England` by mid century-what comes around goes around eh?


en the first official language of Ireland, ahead of English. But only a small minority of the Irish speak Irish. Most people speak English and don't know any Irish. So, they have road signs and government services in Irish but most Irish people don't need and have no use for them, and particularly in Northern Ireland Irish is associated with terrorists amongst Unionists.

What you've got to remember though, is that for most Irish people what happened in the 1800s is history. Only republicans, terrorists and their supporters really go on about "centuries of British oppression" these days.

Most of the Irish feel no animosity towards Britain and the British - how could they, when the Irish are the biggest minority population in England? Most English people feel much more at home in the Republic of Ireland than in Northern Ireland, because sectarianism and anti-British feeling has largely died down there apart from an extreme minority.[/quote]

Excluding Birmingham...