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01 Oct 2011, 9:22 am
Gedrene wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Might be wrong in your case but I see a regular pattern of anti-capital punishment, anti-war types that will nearly slash someone's jugular at the mere mention that abortion might be a questionable practice.
Unless you can provide proof of any of these accusations all you are producing is fanatic anti-left-wing hot air. Don't p*ss in my ear and tell me it's raining.
Duh, read it again.
I said that I had confused you with other types described above. So unless you're defending those other types don't be so quick to find reasons to be offended.
And it's "don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" .
And, yes, I am anti-left wing.
01 Oct 2011, 12:35 pm
Raptor wrote:
I said that I had confused you with other types described above. So unless you're defending those other types don't be so quick to find reasons to be offended.
And it's "don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" .
And it's "don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" .
Don't p*ss in my ear and call it my back. I don't care about your ramrod stiff interpretation. You still managed to get it enough to whinge about how it was supposed to be said 'correctly'. You didn't confuse anything because you assumed about what I thought. You would need to hear what I felt about abortion before you started making sarcastic remarks about what I believed.
Why don't you back off before you get all tetchy with anyone who disagrees with you? Why don't you get the facts first before you open your mouth and run off with it?
Raptor wrote:
And, yes, I am anti-left wing.
Ah, so a fanatic obsession with a particular political background and its persecution? No wonder you sound so sarcastic. Most fanatics hide secret doubts about their attack-dog style and turn to sarcasm. It's so easy to feel self-righteous then.
01 Oct 2011, 1:12 pm
Gedrene wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I said that I had confused you with other types described above. So unless you're defending those other types don't be so quick to find reasons to be offended.
And it's "don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" .
And it's "don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" .
Don't p*ss in my ear and call it my back. I don't care about your ramrod stiff interpretation. You still managed to get it enough to whinge about how it was supposed to be said 'correctly'. You didn't confuse anything because you assumed about what I thought. You would need to hear what I felt about abortion before you started making sarcastic remarks about what I believed.
Why don't you back off before you get all tetchy with anyone who disagrees with you? Why don't you get the facts first before you open your mouth and run off with it?
Raptor wrote:
And, yes, I am anti-left wing.
Ah, so a fanatic obsession with a particular political background and its persecution? No wonder you sound so sarcastic. Most fanatics hide secret doubts about their attack-dog style and turn to sarcasm. It's so easy to feel self-righteous then.
Your turning a debate into a personal war that you can't win.
Get a grip.
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22 Feb 2013, 5:50 am
I've read the topic and replies ( 
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Prisoners should get the option of a last meal, religious service of their choice and at least one phone call to a family member.
Capital Punishment is not humane and should be banned. We should not be funding martyrs.
and two quotes that sum up my position on the argument:
donnie_darko wrote:
I see things differently. Most violent criminals are sociopaths. That is a mental illness. Some people don't consider personality disorders mental illness, but I do. I think we should keep them in jail and feed them because it's the right thing to do. Don't get me wrong, I'd much rather spend the money curing cancer, or saving old growth forest. But what we are doing not killing them, is living up to our standard of human rights. Creating a more compassionate civilization, instead of lionizing revenge and retribution.
The money we use to house murderers is just a drop in the bucket compared to say, our military spending anyway. There's better ways of saving taxpayer money than killing people.
The money we use to house murderers is just a drop in the bucket compared to say, our military spending anyway. There's better ways of saving taxpayer money than killing people.
visagrunt wrote:
There's the fundamental failure, as I see it. Hyperbole aside, they are still human beings--they might not be worthy human beings, and they are (leaving other arguments aside) guilty of heinous acts. But they are still human beings, and the products of the societies in which they lived. By using rhethoric like, "not good enough to be called humans," you create the implication that your society bears no responsibility for any of the totality of circumstances that led to their actions. At the end of the day, the criminal is still a criminal, and nothing will diminish their culpability. But we should still be asking ourselves, "What could we have done differently to prevent this? Will we do anything differently going forward?"
I regularly look at the news and ask those two questions...because answering them will make the world a better place.
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