Make America WHITE AGAIN!
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As Transgender people are a teeny tiny minority, even if some of them wanted to do such a thing, it would be laughable if they tried. Unfortunately, Neo-Nazis and other white supremacists are considerably more numerous, and have caused genuine injury and death, and anyone courting them just to get their votes are more than just guilty by association.
You'd be surprised what opinions people hold when they aren't trying to blend in.
What's the percentage of say, violent white supremacists? What about socialists? White and CIS hating people are in the latter group.
You can replace "Neo-Nazis" with "socialists" and you're making the same argument, and by design are calling Bernie/Hillary guilty. "Socialists" are just as guilty and bad as fascists by any measure, in actual events and ideology.
The door swings both ways. Both sides of the same coin. And all that.
Communists have committed horrible atrocities, whereas socialists have not. While the two had developed from a common source, they are not the same thing. And in all fairness, i have yet to see the wholesale violence committed in the name of hate by socialists or anyone else on the left that white supremacists and other right wing fanatics are guilty of here in America.
As for Bernie and Clinton: I have never seen any violent extremist groups associating themselves with either. The fact is, most of the Republican leadership and pundits are shying away from Trump in large part due to the lunatic fringe in his fanclub.
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I agree. People will always do this, and there's always going to be divisions. Celts and Anglo-Saxons. Christians and Muslims. Et cetera.
Albeit, I look to countries that have less divisions (particularly Western European ones, as that's what I'm familial with), and they do often have things like say, less violence, social turmoil and a higher standard of living.
I then look to countries that have more divisions, and you tend to see more violence and social upheaval, which leads to civil war, and a breakdown of the country in the worst outcome. The caveat being these countries tend to be outside of Western Europe, so there could be more factors at play (I'm sure there are).
I guess the future will tell the tale with say, America, and if they can implement social policies that can mitigate the things that lead to a breakdown. Said things may never come to fruition anyway.
It's a very complicated issue it seems.
Western Europe's days of peace and prosperity are actually something very recent. Along with two world wars, western Europeans have had histories of ethnic and religious conflict (it's still going on in North Ireland), as well as class and economic struggles (it's no accident that Marxism and fascism arose in the west).
In addition, Switzerland is multicultural and has been peaceful and prosperous for decades at least.
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I agree. People will always do this, and there's always going to be divisions. Celts and Anglo-Saxons. Christians and Muslims. Et cetera.
Albeit, I look to countries that have less divisions (particularly Western European ones, as that's what I'm familial with), and they do often have things like say, less violence, social turmoil and a higher standard of living.
I then look to countries that have more divisions, and you tend to see more violence and social upheaval, which leads to civil war, and a breakdown of the country in the worst outcome. The caveat being these countries tend to be outside of Western Europe, so there could be more factors at play (I'm sure there are).
I guess the future will tell the tale with say, America, and if they can implement social policies that can mitigate the things that lead to a breakdown. Said things may never come to fruition anyway.
It's a very complicated issue it seems.
Western Europe's days of peace and prosperity are actually something very recent. Along with two world wars, western Europeans have had histories of ethnic and religious conflict (it's still going on in North Ireland), as well as class and economic struggles (it's no accident that Marxism and fascism arose in the west).
In addition, Switzerland is multicultural and has been peaceful and prosperous for decades at least.
Yes - German, French, and Italian speakers. Goes to show you, different ethnicities and linguistic groups can live together as one nationality. Then again, we Americans have been proving that point on a larger, grander scale.
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As for Bernie and Clinton: I have never seen any violent extremist groups associating themselves with either. The fact is, most of the Republican leadership and pundits are shying away from Trump in large part due to the lunatic fringe in his fanclub.
Socialism and communism are synonymous here (differences being in the latter the government owns the property, whereas the former doesn't--the end stage of socialism is communism, and socialists work towards the latter eventually). The things the violent socialists today do are the exact things that violent communists would do: social justice. Social justice has a violent side that's just as bad as Nazism.
I showed you in the Political thread that both sides are equally guilty in the US in the past 30 or so years (up to right now).
Try to be a little less biased with who you lay blame on.
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As for Bernie and Clinton: I have never seen any violent extremist groups associating themselves with either. The fact is, most of the Republican leadership and pundits are shying away from Trump in large part due to the lunatic fringe in his fanclub.
Socialism and communism are synonymous here (differences being in the latter the government owns the property, whereas the former doesn't--the end stage of socialism is communism, and socialists work towards the latter eventually). The things the violent socialists today do are the exact things that violent communists would do: social justice. Social justice has a violent side that's just as bad as Nazism.
I showed you in the Political thread that both sides are equally guilty in the US in the past 30 or so years (up to right now).
Try to be a little less biased with who you lay blame on.
I'm not being biased. The fact is, I have yet to see modern day western socialists wanting to transform into communism.
Sure, social justice warriors are violent - - to one's sensibilities. They are arrogant, narrow minded bigots, but I have yet to see any of them lynching anyone, or dragging someone behind a pickup, or shooting up a church. What have SJW's done, other than punch a few Trump supporters?
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They stabbed and clubbed people the other week (BAMN). They did the same a few months back (same type of freedom of speech rally attacked). Both of those were confirmed by the police regarding the guilty side.
Black people have lynched white people post-Ferguson in majority black areas (I'm sure it happened before that; these type of supremacists/racist crimes don't really make the news unless they're attached to a specific event).
On the opposite side,
The Church attack by the lone wolf.
Some Bernie/Hillary supporters manhandled.
I haven't heard of any newsworthy white racist/supremacist attacks, though I'm sure there's been some (most hate crimes never make the news in the US).
There's also been various attacks with ideologies outside of these. Atheists, Muslims and whatnot.
If you look, you find extremists on whatever side you can think of doing bad things. The more popular something is, the more extremists attached to it.
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Black people have lynched white people post-Ferguson in majority black areas (I'm sure it happened before that; these type of supremacists/racist crimes don't really make the news unless they're attached to a specific event).
On the opposite side,
The Church attack by the lone wolf.
Some Bernie/Hillary supporters manhandled.
I haven't heard of any newsworthy white racist/supremacist attacks, though I'm sure there's been some (most hate crimes never make the news in the US).
There's also been various attacks with ideologies outside of these. Atheists, Muslims and whatnot.
If you look, you find extremists on whatever side you can think of doing bad things. The more popular something is, the more extremists attached to it.
But who says those white deaths at the hands of black bigots were in any way politically motivated? It just sounds like angry people taking their racial hatred out on someone else.
Incidentally, lynchings of blacks far outnumber lynchings of whites.
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I think this is another anti-fascist white movement encouraged by Trump supporters who don’t support the ‘free world’ in a secularian sense.
The free world can take care of itself, unlike those who don’t feel they belong in it.
I live in a multi-cultural society, which is made up of free movement and trade.
What is this anyhow, do as the Romans do?
Let’s blame the surrey kid who got arrested for shooting at a mass rally, in awe of the Trump. Oh, apart from a very angry mob. The poor kid got a mild concussion after that. His background was that he got picked on in school and found stressful situations hard. Next he'll be sending out death warrants to anyone who undermines him.
Rick Tyler, an independent Congressional candidate for Tennessee’s 3rd District, is facing a boycott of his restaurant business after he advertised his candidacy with racist billboard messages saying, “Make America White Again.”
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“I’m all about freedom,” said Tyler, whose campaign website contains lengthy “conspiracy science” posts about chemtrails and communist plots. “It’s great that they are able to say what they want to say. What’s tragic is that I’m not able to. I’m not allowed to. My First Amendment right is being nailed to the cross.”

New shadow conspiracy is dawning..it looks like

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I fail to see how "being White" is a virtue in and of itself. Consider what happened to the world between 1932 and 1945. The German people who are Whiter Than White danced to the tune of that Aryan arch Caucasian Hitler and nearly wrecked the world. And what great contributions to civilization did that White Guys who used to run South Africa make???
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Both, since social constructs are supposed to be the product of biology.
Supposed to be??
Maybe.
Are??
Only insofar as we have nurtured this pathologically stupid tendency to attach social valuation to certain biological traits, whether in an effort to systematize and therefore be able to easily predict behaviors or, more likely, in an effort to play "us against them" in-group politics to the advantage of the group constructed as "us" in the fabricated zero-sum game.
Social constructs are the product of biology because we say they are-- because we're listening to our primitive reptilian brains (which any person, regardless of skin pigmentation, can choose to do). That's th real biology in play there.
Anyone of anything remotely approaching low-normal intelligence can choose to think and experience past "the monkey". Most of the people I've met with truly impaired intelligence don't evidence the need to categorize and judge-- those I have known based judgments on what was happening in the immediate moment, kind of ending up circumventing socially constructed prejudice anyway.
But we do not choose to. We CAN. We just don't, because listening to "the monkey" is easier.
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The city I live in is 98.7% "white".
The property taxes are about $15,000 per year for a $350,000 home.
My city is rated the second safest city in the whole state. (We get outsiders that come in and do crimes).
That's the trick to safety, few non-whites, high property taxes.
Prove me wrong if you can ...
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The property taxes are about $15,000 per year for a $350,000 home.
My city is rated the second safest city in the whole state. (We get outsiders that come in and do crimes).
That's the trick to safety, few non-whites, high property taxes.
Prove me wrong if you can ...
Spoken like a true cracker!
And before anyone attacks me for being a jackass, I'd rather lived in a safe, mixed race community, than in a community of snobs, who have nothing better to do than look down other people's throat!
The property taxes are about $15,000 per year for a $350,000 home.
My city is rated the second safest city in the whole state. (We get outsiders that come in and do crimes).
That's the trick to safety, few non-whites, high property taxes.
Prove me wrong if you can ...
Spoken like a true cracker!
And before anyone attacks me for being a jackass, I'd rather lived in a safe, mixed race community, than in a community of snobs, who have nothing better to do than look down other people's throat!
I have multi-millionaires moving in near me.
They tear down the the existing homes, and build their big custom homes.
A home is an investment.
You are likely sacrificing much home appreciation so you can live in a "mixed race community".
You can find your city's crime rating here ...
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighb ... ime-rates/
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The property taxes are about $15,000 per year for a $350,000 home.
My city is rated the second safest city in the whole state. (We get outsiders that come in and do crimes).
That's the trick to safety, few non-whites, high property taxes.
Prove me wrong if you can ...
Spoken like a true cracker!
And before anyone attacks me for being a jackass, I'd rather lived in a safe, mixed race community, than in a community of snobs, who have nothing better to do than look down other people's throat!
I have multi-millionaires moving in near me.
They tear down the the existing homes, and build their big custom homes.
A home is an investment.
You are likely sacrificing much home appreciation so you can live in a "mixed race community".
You can find your city's crime rating here ...
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighb ... ime-rates/
But isn't that assuming that a multi-racial community is the root of crime, rather than poverty and the crime that accompanies said poverty? It seems to me that exclusively white and wealthy neighborhoods are part of the problem, as people in such communities not only segregate themselves, but cause other populations in turn to unintentionally segregate due to exclusion.
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Poverty is the root of most crime.
Rich people don't riot,too busy golfing.And Armani hasn't come out with its riot gear line yet.
Rich white neighborhoods are chock full of criminals,white collar criminals.Tax evasion,insider trading,hiring and exploiting illegals for work.I doubt John Gotti lived in the hood when he was in power.
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