State of emergency: High tension in Virginia as right-wing

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18 Jan 2020, 1:31 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:

http://huffp.st/1YBVcQL
is all the fault of left wing reporting. :lol:

One problem with calling or implying everything is Nazi/Fascist/Alt-Right is when an actual hate and terrorist groups are revealed the reporting is dismissed as deliberately planned hysteria.

Sadly, what you're describing is mostly a tactic used by the far-right to undermine legitimate reports of terrorism that are connected to the right. Any time a terrorist with right-wing ideological motivations draws attention to themselves the far-right will try to insist that person was motivated by anything but far-right ideology.

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18 Jan 2020, 7:58 pm

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Three more suspected neo-Nazis arrested before Virginia gun rights rally, authorities say
President Trump on Friday warned of an “attack” on the Second Amendment after Virginia Democrats curtailed access for firearms at the state capitol.

“Your 2nd Amendment is under very serious attack in the Great Commonwealth of Virginia. That’s what happens when you vote for Democrats, they will take your guns away. Republicans will win Virginia in 2020. Thank you Dems!” Trump tweet

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Trump seems to have myopia when it comes neo-Nazis....a gathering of a nazi rally and Trump appears to throw support behind their rally by invoking the 2nd amendment. His Klan father would be proud.

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18 Jan 2020, 8:04 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

Any time a terrorist with right-wing ideological motivations draws attention to themselves the far-right will try to insist that person was motivated by anything but far-right ideology.

Strategy seems to be working. Republicans are lauding the rally as fighting for 2nd amendment rights. Very quiet aren't they about the arrests?

The ultra-right used the Charlottesville protest to garner support from their fellow republicans claiming the removal of statues celebrating famous pro-slave warriors was an attack on American civil liberties. That's exactly why Trump said there were fine people on both sides.

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18 Jan 2020, 10:02 pm

Court OK's temporary weapons ban at Virginia Capitol amid fear of violence at gun rally

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The Supreme Court of Virginia on Friday upheld a temporary ban on firearms at the state Capitol ahead of a pro-gun rally on Monday that authorities believed could lead to extremist violence.

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19 Jan 2020, 5:46 am

It's never the gun advocates you see that will do the fighting. Have fun focusing on the whack-a-moles who are dumb enough to stick their heads up.

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19 Jan 2020, 5:53 am

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Court OK's temporary weapons ban at Virginia Capitol amid fear of violence at gun rally

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The Supreme Court of Virginia on Friday upheld a temporary ban on firearms at the state Capitol ahead of a pro-gun rally on Monday that authorities believed could lead to extremist violence.

How did they get a first amendment argument out of having a ban on carrying a weapon?

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19 Jan 2020, 12:24 pm

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This sort of talk produces very little benefit on a public forum and should be reserved for an echo chamber among like-minded people; better yet, if you haven't any good to say about someone, don't say it. If you are emasculating anyone, guns are not the part you are trying to remove and I believe we can move this into the transgender discussion category; furthermore, when you say something like that, the effects are twofold. First, by assuming people into a class and then stereotyping, you show your ignorance. Secondly, by attacking them, you show your arrogance.

You have invalidated your opinion on gun control by that statement, I believe, because talk like that shows an unwillingness to let a conclusion spoil an argument. Saying things like that is what will make the other side angry and feel threatened, and determination and cunning are going to beat someone whose raison d'être is more worthy of a middle-school playground babbler.

Unfortunately, such a weak argument is almost impossible to disagree with, but it paints you as a very disagreeable person, the kind of entitled and arrogant vacuity against which the working class man might well wish to protect himself. It's not about your philosophy at this point; how will you ever persuade anybody to agree with you when prejudice keeps you disagreeable?

The "emasculation" remark was in reference to the saying that people buy guns to compensate for having small genitals.

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19 Jan 2020, 12:49 pm

That doesn't make you any less spiteful, any less ignorant, any less myopic or any less authoritarian, and the fact that you think that it does is somewhat frightening.

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19 Jan 2020, 2:18 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

Borromeo wrote:

The "emasculation" remark was in reference to the saying that people buy guns to compensate for having small genitals.

I have not heard that one in awhile. Gun ownership as a compensory phallic symbol was a common stereotype back in the ‘70s.

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19 Jan 2020, 3:37 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:

Borromeo wrote:

The "emasculation" remark was in reference to the saying that people buy guns to compensate for having small genitals.

I'm autistic, not ret*d. I can read what you wrote, but I don't have to agree with it, and if anything it makes you as petty as Trump himself, arguing with that North Korean commie about whose button was bigger.

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19 Jan 2020, 4:26 pm

Borromeo wrote:

Tim_Tex wrote:

Borromeo wrote:

The "emasculation" remark was in reference to the saying that people buy guns to compensate for having small genitals.

Avoid using the r-word please

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19 Jan 2020, 4:27 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

I have not heard that one in awhile. Gun ownership as a compensory phallic symbol was a common stereotype back in the ‘70s.

Actually makes sense, owning a powerful gun is like owning a large gas guzzling car...compensating

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19 Jan 2020, 4:32 pm

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Or alleged "race war," as "prophesied" in various works by white racists.

I feel the governor did the right thing.

I have a feeling it's far more the white left making such prophecies.

As always. It's their only card. If some liberal traitors start trying to f**k with the Consitution they will get in trouble.

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19 Jan 2020, 4:35 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:

Any time a terrorist with right-wing ideological motivations draws attention to themselves the far-right will try to insist that person was motivated by anything but far-right ideology.

General Lee was a hero against the North's war of aggression. Only fantasist liberals just see race everywhere cause they are the real racists.

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19 Jan 2020, 4:49 pm

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General Lee was a hero against the North's war of aggression. Only fantasist liberals just see race everywhere cause they are the real racists.

Historical fact 1 - The primary catalyst for secession was slavery, most immediately the political battle over the right of Southerners to bring slavery into western territory that had hitherto been free under the terms of the Missouri Compromise or while part of Mexico. Another factor for secession and the formation of the Confederacy, was white Southern nationalism which was seperate to the union "American nationalism". Almost all historians agree on this

Historical Fact 2 -The war began when the Confederates bombarded Union soldiers at Fort Sumter, South Carolina on April 12, 1861.

Every recognised historian in the US agrees race was the primary factor in the south wanting secession and that the confederates were the instigators who started the war. General Lee was therefore both a white nationalist and a traitor

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19 Jan 2020, 5:26 pm

Don’t know anything about the dead guy to have an opinion, but this is the General Lee I grew up knowing & it remains totally acceptable today:

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