11 Dec 2021, 5:00 am
11 Dec 2021, 5:18 am
ASPartOfMe
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11 Dec 2021, 10:09 am
11 Dec 2021, 6:09 pm
cyberdad wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
So fascinating watching the market at work when the demand for hate crimes outpaces the supply.
Where exactly do you think the outrage came from? imagination? Smollet may be dumb but he was tapping into responses to 400 years of hate crimes.
Based on what has been reported, the theory is, Smollett simply wanted to improve his social profile/presence to help his acting career.
11 Dec 2021, 6:14 pm
ironpony wrote:
Are you saying that he should have faked getting beat up just to prove a point or send a message?
I have no tolerance for "Fake News".
I am the Oracle of Truth, after all.
Consider:
He has single handedly damage his side of politics, big time.
Good one, Jussie.
What a putz.
But, yes, I do consider the possibility that he was a victim of an electronic harassment campaign influencing his thinking.
11 Dec 2021, 6:20 pm
Brictoria wrote:
Some more for the collection:
How embarrassing.
You would think that these people in a position of authority would think, research, and post with moderation.
As I have been saying for millennia, "DON'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, DUMMIES!! !"
11 Dec 2021, 6:24 pm
TwisterUprocker wrote:
The question is, did they now about the outrageous details at the time of postings.
Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.
Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.
If you don't do the hard yakka thinking, you skrew your credibility.
If you let your partisan groupthink feelings dictate your decision making, you skrew your integrity.
It ain't rocket surgery. <sigh>
11 Dec 2021, 6:33 pm
Brictoria wrote:
TwisterUprocker wrote:
The question is, did they now about the outrageous details at the time of postings.
Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.
Like being out of the cold at three in morning, being randomly spotted and recognized, and the cheesy lines.
The problem isn't so much their hasty responces (I'd be surprised if there wasn't anyone who hadn't jumped to a conclusion based on early reporting\minimal information at some stage of their life), but rather how they react as\when information which contradicted this (up to and following the recent trial) became public - Did they double-down on their commentary\hope what they said would be forgotten\publicly revise their opinions on what occurred\appologise for their errors in what they had publicly stated\etc. given the audiences they had\number of people potentially influenced by what they say.
Simple information such as the temperature were known (or should have been) at the time, with information which would contradict the initial reporting being known within days (from memory).
Politicians play the average Joe/Josephine for mugs.
They depend on "Useful Idiots".
If people focused on critical thinking skills, rather than embracing what feels right, the politicians would have much less chance of getting away with their outrageous nonsense, Tim Flannery.
This is really embarrassing, but most politicians have no shame and simply shrug it off.
And the dummies in the community let them get away with it.
"Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me."
11 Dec 2021, 6:40 pm
Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Smollet's decision was dumb, and he's clearly not a good actor either as his performance when interviewed by Gayle King was pretty awful. But Dox trying to associate Smollet's attempt to draw attention to himself with some fictitious demand for hate crimes from the left is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Huh, I don't remember mentioning the left at all in my one line comment, funny that you heard it so clearly though.
My understand, as I have said above, is that Smollett's intention was to increase his public profile to help his failing acting career.
In doing this, he has severely damage the stance of the prevalence of hate crimes in America.
I am not saying it doesn't happen, however.
11 Dec 2021, 6:42 pm
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Black Lives Matter Stands with Jussie Smollett Despite Guilty Verdict
Quote:
Despite the guilty verdict, the leaders of Black Lives Matter in Los Angeles say they still stand with the disgraced actor.
“So let’s be clear: we love everybody in our community. We can never believe police, especially the CPD over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom,” BLM LA leader Melina Abdullah said before the verdict.
Now, after the verdict, Abdullah tells TMZ she has not changed her stance.
She says Smollett still has their full support. Abdullah says the organization refuses to abandon its people and stands
“So let’s be clear: we love everybody in our community. We can never believe police, especially the CPD over Jussie Smollett, a Black man who has been courageously present, visible, and vocal in the struggle for Black freedom,” BLM LA leader Melina Abdullah said before the verdict.
Now, after the verdict, Abdullah tells TMZ she has not changed her stance.
She says Smollett still has their full support. Abdullah says the organization refuses to abandon its people and stands
Ignore the facts.
Follow the narrative.
11 Dec 2021, 8:11 pm
Pepe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
So fascinating watching the market at work when the demand for hate crimes outpaces the supply.
Where exactly do you think the outrage came from? imagination? Smollet may be dumb but he was tapping into responses to 400 years of hate crimes.
Based on what has been reported, the theory is, Smollett simply wanted to improve his social profile/presence to help his acting career.
True, he was weaponising race to promote/draw attention to himself so must face the consequences (not unlike (although a different context) Amy Cooper the Central Park Karen).
I was responding to Dox's comment that the left spend their time looking for hate crimes to champion, that's absurd, most progressives want it to stop. The initial reaction from celebrities like Ellen Degeneres was because Smollet is both gay and black and everyone knows America's track record with hate crimes. It's kind of dumb to pretend the initial reaction was made up for purely political purposes.
11 Dec 2021, 8:16 pm
11 Dec 2021, 10:14 pm
ASPartOfMe
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12 Dec 2021, 12:34 am
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12 Dec 2021, 1:03 am
A detective says they suspected Smollett , because of this ...
1. At 2am on a coldest day , Smollett buys a sandwich.
2. Then afterwards, despite a vicious attack, including bleach being poured on Smollett, the sandwich was unharmed.
So, this was the case of THE UNHARMED SANDWICH.
Jussie Smollett's Subway sandwich was key to case, ex-Chicago police superintendent says
https://news.yahoo.com/jussie-smollett- ... p_catchall
