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27 Dec 2019, 1:49 am

EzraS wrote:
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Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


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27 Dec 2019, 1:58 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


Convincing oneself that a weakness is actually a strength is an easy way of soothing the ego.

Clearly they understand that an argument is likely to focus on radical disagreements before resolving minor disagreements, but it's convenient to ignore that to pretend as though anyone they disagree with is merely parroting each other, even when there's often substantial disagreements within the population they're referring to.

Further, a few of these posters are quite known for reducing any criticisms of Donald Trump down to 'orange man bad' before attempting to address them, so I wouldn't expect any stunning intellectual responses as this drags out.

Primarily this is the result of Ezra going thread to thread yelling at liberal boogiemen and then complaining they're all the same when everyone tells him to contribute or stfu followed by tantrums over how most of the participants agree that he's being irrational and embarrassing himself.


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27 Dec 2019, 1:59 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


There's a difference between those in genuine need like myself and those looking for a handout.



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27 Dec 2019, 2:20 am

It seems I am the only one behaving myself.



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27 Dec 2019, 2:24 am

EzraS wrote:
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EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


There's a difference between those in genuine need like myself and those looking for a handout.


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I'm talking about how none of us could survive without the rest of human society.
But as far as your post is concerned, who are you to say that someone getting aid is undeserving or is just looking for a hand out? There are plenty of people on your side of the political spectrum who say no one should get public assistance, but rather should either pull themselves up by their bootstraps, depend on family or private charities, or better yet go off and die.


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27 Dec 2019, 2:38 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


There's a difference between those in genuine need like myself and those looking for a handout.


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I'm talking about how none of us could survive without the rest of human society.
But as far as your post is concerned, who are you to say that someone getting aid is undeserving or is just looking for a hand out? There are plenty of people on your side of the political spectrum who say no one should get public assistance, but rather should either pull themselves up by their bootstraps, depend on family or private charities, or better yet go off and die.


Actually there have been those who separated from society and survived just fine on their own.

As a genuinely disabled person, I am saying there are people looking for a handout. See I'm not looking for one, I am stuck with having one. And I do not like it. I do not like having to be provided for, instead of being able to provide for myself.

That's the difference between someone like me and someone looking for handouts.



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27 Dec 2019, 2:39 am

EzraS wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


Convincing oneself that a weakness is actually a strength is an easy way of soothing the ego.

Clearly they understand that an argument is likely to focus on radical disagreements before resolving minor disagreements, but it's convenient to ignore that to pretend as though anyone they disagree with is merely parroting each other, even when there's often substantial disagreements within the population they're referring to.

Further, a few of these posters are quite known for reducing any criticisms of Donald Trump down to 'orange man bad' before attempting to address them, so I wouldn't expect any stunning intellectual responses as this drags out.

Primarily this is the result of Ezra going thread to thread yelling at liberal boogiemen and then complaining they're all the same when everyone tells him to contribute or stfu followed by tantrums over how most of the participants agree that he's being irrational and embarrassing himself.


The interpretation of contributing being; supplying leftist rhetoric and or supporting it. Anyone saying things contrary to it is not contributing, deserves to be mocked and should stfu.


Complaining that you don't like that other people are agreeing isn't a valid contribution, please try to be honest.


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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.


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27 Dec 2019, 2:47 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:

Conservatives have always been pushing the myth of the indomitable individual. This in fact flies in the face of everything that history and anthropology tells us that humans have always survived as societies where people depend on one another, rather than as lone individuals.


I love the way you deliver that same opening line over and over "Conservatives have always..." and then add in whatever you are arguing against. But anyways you are saying it's natural for human beings to share a hive mentality and sound exactly alike.


Uh, no, I never promoted any kind of hive mentality. Rather, we humans can't survive as self sufficient individuals because no such thing exists. It's in our nature to depend on one another, and give aid to those in need.


There's a difference between those in genuine need like myself and those looking for a handout.


What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? I'm talking about how none of us could survive without the rest of human society.
But as far as your post is concerned, who are you to say that someone getting aid is undeserving or is just looking for a hand out? There are plenty of people on your side of the political spectrum who say no one should get public assistance, but rather should either pull themselves up by their bootstraps, depend on family or private charities, or better yet go off and die.


Actually there have been those who separated from society and survived just fine on their own.

As a genuinely disabled person, I am saying there are people looking for a handout. See I'm not looking for one, I am stuck with having one. And I do not like it. I do not like having to be provided for, instead of being able to provide for myself.

That's the difference between someone like me and someone looking for handouts.

How do you know that those you denigrate also aren't truly in need? Just because their disability isn't as extreme as yours doesn't mean that they're faking it for a handout.
Who lives outside of society without human help? Even if there are a few, they are the exception not the rule.


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27 Dec 2019, 2:57 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Actually there have been those who separated from society and survived just fine on their own.

As a genuinely disabled person, I am saying there are people looking for a handout. See I'm not looking for one, I am stuck with having one. And I do not like it. I do not like having to be provided for, instead of being able to provide for myself.

That's the difference between someone like me and someone looking for handouts.

How do you know that those you denigrate also aren't truly in need? Just because their disability isn't as extreme as yours doesn't mean that they're faking it for a handout.
Who lives outside of society without human help? Even if there are a few, they are the exception not the rule.


I am talking about those who are genuinely in need and have absolutely no other recourse vs those looking for a handout.



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27 Dec 2019, 3:14 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Actually there have been those who separated from society and survived just fine on their own.

As a genuinely disabled person, I am saying there are people looking for a handout. See I'm not looking for one, I am stuck with having one. And I do not like it. I do not like having to be provided for, instead of being able to provide for myself.

That's the difference between someone like me and someone looking for handouts.

How do you know that those you denigrate also aren't truly in need? Just because their disability isn't as extreme as yours doesn't mean that they're faking it for a handout.
Who lives outside of society without human help? Even if there are a few, they are the exception not the rule.


I am talking about those who are genuinely in need and have absolutely no other recourse vs those looking for a handout.


The only problem is, people in genuine need are described by elements on the right as being parasites and eaters.


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27 Dec 2019, 3:21 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Actually there have been those who separated from society and survived just fine on their own.

As a genuinely disabled person, I am saying there are people looking for a handout. See I'm not looking for one, I am stuck with having one. And I do not like it. I do not like having to be provided for, instead of being able to provide for myself.

That's the difference between someone like me and someone looking for handouts.

How do you know that those you denigrate also aren't truly in need? Just because their disability isn't as extreme as yours doesn't mean that they're faking it for a handout.
Who lives outside of society without human help? Even if there are a few, they are the exception not the rule.


I am talking about those who are genuinely in need and have absolutely no other recourse vs those looking for a handout.


The only problem is, people in genuine need are described by elements on the right as being parasites and eaters.


As usual I have heard that from many on the left umpteen times, but not from the right. In other words that notion is proliferated to a huge extent by the left.



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27 Dec 2019, 3:22 am

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Honestly I think your idea of contributing is someone saying what you want to hear.


I'd settle for something I can disagree with or something worth pondering.


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27 Dec 2019, 3:31 am

EzraS wrote:
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I don't want any type of teamwork. I think everyone should do their own thing, be held accountable for their own actions. I want to do my own thing and be left alone. But people on WP who run in packs and insist that everyone else is either in a pack already, or must be crammed into a pack, are the 5 circle jerkers.

Racists
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Universal healthcare
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Enough with the pack mentality already... You do you. I don't want anything to do with your packs. I don't want anything from you and I won't allow you to require anything of me.

I bet half of you would s**t your pants if you ever had to stand alone. You are a mob, you run in packs, alone you are impotent, which is a huge reason why I don't respect you. You're like a school of Piranha.


Should people pretend to disagree just so you'll feel more comfortable?


Probably more like 5 or so people not sounding like clones.


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27 Dec 2019, 3:33 am

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Honestly I think your idea of contributing is someone saying what you want to hear.


I'd settle for something I can disagree with or something worth pondering.


Really? You don't disagree with anything I've said? Awesome.



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27 Dec 2019, 3:33 am

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The only problem is, people in genuine need are described by elements on the right as being parasites and eaters.


Parasitism isn't far from the truth....right wing mantra....low taxes and low wages = slavery



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27 Dec 2019, 3:36 am

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