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10 Jul 2016, 12:23 pm

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But isn't that assuming that a multi-racial community is the root of crime, rather than poverty and the crime that accompanies said poverty? It seems to me that exclusively white and wealthy neighborhoods are part of the problem, as people in such communities not only segregate themselves, but cause other populations in turn to unintentionally segregate due to exclusion.

Look at rich cities like San Francisco, and San Jose, both "mixed", and very high crime.

Likely, if they transitioned to all white, their crimes number will plunge.

I just want to make a lot of money.

Buy into the right area, and it's not hard to make $300,000-$500,000 over 20 years.

Buy into the wrong area, and you go nowhere over 20 years.

So, I can see why people may say, "Make America white again".



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10 Jul 2016, 12:38 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But isn't that assuming that a multi-racial community is the root of crime, rather than poverty and the crime that accompanies said poverty? It seems to me that exclusively white and wealthy neighborhoods are part of the problem, as people in such communities not only segregate themselves, but cause other populations in turn to unintentionally segregate due to exclusion.

Look at rich cities like San Francisco, and San Jose, both "mixed", and very high crime.

Likely, if they transitioned to all white, their crimes number will plunge.

I just want to make a lot of money.

Buy into the right area, and it's not hard to make $300,000-$500,000 over 20 years.

Buy into the wrong area, and you go nowhere over 20 years.

So, I can see why people may say, "Make America white again".


So are you saying that white people just naturally commit less crimes than other races?



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10 Jul 2016, 12:58 pm

Poverty,not race.
https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/badcomm.htm
I watch my local news from this city,always some sort of crime going on.Some are kind of weird.Its also a mostly white town with a decent economy.It also has one of the highest rates of child abuse and neglect.So here we have a predominantly white city with a high crime rate.It's probably the meth,wh***y does like his crank.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... ost_d.html


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10 Jul 2016, 1:00 pm

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So are you saying that white people just naturally commit less crimes than other races?

Yeah.

I don't know all the reasons.

Here are some reasons:
-Whites definitely have way more wealth than non-whites. (Economic)
-It seems like "gang life" is more acceptable to non-whites than whites. (Cultural)
-Whites score better on every educational metric over blacks and Hispanics. (Economic & Cultural)



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10 Jul 2016, 1:03 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
So are you saying that white people just naturally commit less crimes than other races?

Yeah.

I don't know all the reasons.

Here are some reasons:
-Whites definitely have way more wealth than non-whites. (Economic)
-It seems like "gang life" is more acceptable to non-whites than whites. (Cultural)
-Whites score better on every educational metric over blacks and Hispanics. (Economic & Cultural)

Do you use bleach or Oxyclean to keep your hood and robe sparkling white?


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10 Jul 2016, 1:04 pm

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Poverty,not race.
https://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/badcomm.htm
I watch my local news from this city,always some sort of crime going on.Some are kind of weird.Its also a mostly white town with a decent economy.It also has one of the highest rates of child abuse and neglect.So here we have a predominantly white city with a high crime rate.It's probably the meth,wh***y does like his crank.
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... ost_d.html


Columbus is mixed city, so yeah high crime.

In 2010 , only 59% was white.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus,_Ohio



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10 Jul 2016, 1:06 pm

Misslizard wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
So are you saying that white people just naturally commit less crimes than other races?

Yeah.

I don't know all the reasons.

Here are some reasons:
-Whites definitely have way more wealth than non-whites. (Economic)
-It seems like "gang life" is more acceptable to non-whites than whites. (Cultural)
-Whites score better on every educational metric over blacks and Hispanics. (Economic & Cultural)

Do you use bleach or Oxyclean to keep your hood and robe sparkling white?


Did you graduate high school?

If I need to "dumb this down for you" let me know...



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10 Jul 2016, 1:15 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:
Lukeda420 wrote:
So are you saying that white people just naturally commit less crimes than other races?

Yeah.

I don't know all the reasons.

Here are some reasons:
-Whites definitely have way more wealth than non-whites. (Economic)
-It seems like "gang life" is more acceptable to non-whites than whites. (Cultural)
-Whites score better on every educational metric over blacks and Hispanics. (Economic & Cultural)

Do you use bleach or Oxyclean to keep your hood and robe sparkling white?


Did you graduate high school?

If I need to "dumb this down for you" let me know...

What does my education have to do with your racism?Is that remark becuse I'm from Arkansas?
The article was about impoverished white neighborhoods.Are your reading skills adequate?
Enlighten me on why a predominately white city such as Springfield has such a high crime rate if whites are just naturally law abiding?


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10 Jul 2016, 1:43 pm

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What does my education have to do with your racism?Is that remark becuse I'm from Arkansas?
The article was about impoverished white neighborhoods.Are your reading skills adequate?
Enlighten me on why a predominately white city such as Springfield has such a high crime rate if whites are just naturally law abiding?

1. The first reason I listed was "wealth", whites have way more wealth, so likely they do less crime. So I have acknowledged the link between poverty and crime.

2. Education has to do with crime, because people with more education have more opportunity, more chance at economic success.

3. It's not racist to acknowledge the real world.

4. The Columbus research you cite does not tell us the areas they looked at, nor does it tell us the types of crimes. What matters is property and violent crime , not average crime rates. They could be comparing misdemeanor crime with violent crime. And if they told us the neighborhoods , we can use "neighbor scout" link I cited earlier to check if what they say is true.

5. Further, all you have to go to the link I provided earlier, type in the city, and it will show you the property and violent crime rates.

6. There are plenty of unsafe white cities. I never said otherwise.

7. As I said earlier, you need high property taxes. High property taxes would slowly clear out the white rift-raft out of Springfield.

8. Here is a list of the safest cities in America
http://www.safewise.com/safest-cities-america

Going down the list, checking wikipedia, you will see they are 85%-95%+ white (at least as far as I checked).

This is just statistics.



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10 Jul 2016, 1:49 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
But isn't that assuming that a multi-racial community is the root of crime, rather than poverty and the crime that accompanies said poverty? It seems to me that exclusively white and wealthy neighborhoods are part of the problem, as people in such communities not only segregate themselves, but cause other populations in turn to unintentionally segregate due to exclusion.

Look at rich cities like San Francisco, and San Jose, both "mixed", and very high crime.

Likely, if they transitioned to all white, their crimes number will plunge.

I just want to make a lot of money.

Buy into the right area, and it's not hard to make $300,000-$500,000 over 20 years.

Buy into the wrong area, and you go nowhere over 20 years.

So, I can see why people may say, "Make America white again".


Regardless, most blacks - like most whites - don't commit crimes. A minority from impoverished areas tend to be habitual trouble makers, or people are arrested for drug crimes, which is just a means of racial suppression (proof of that is that far more non-whites are convicted of drug crimes, even though whites use drugs in equal percentages)
And you can see why people would want America to be all white? I presume also all straight, all affluent, all God fearin' fundies. That describes Mayberry, and I don't want to live in Mayberry, as it was devoid of anyone interesting.


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10 Jul 2016, 1:58 pm

LoveNotHate,

What do you think the reason is behind Hispanics and black people having less wealth than white people?

And also do you think a black person of equal wealth as that of a white person would still be more prone to violence?



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10 Jul 2016, 2:04 pm

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Regardless, most blacks - like most whites - don't commit crimes. A minority from impoverished areas tend to be habitual trouble makers, or people are arrested for drug crimes, which is just a means of racial suppression (proof of that is that far more non-whites are convicted of drug crimes, even though whites use drugs in equal percentages)
And you can see why people would want America to be all white? I presume also all straight, all affluent, all God fearin' fundies. That describes Mayberry, and I don't want to live in Mayberry, as it was devoid of anyone interesting.

Sure.

However, we live in the internet age, where people can type your city and even neighborhood name into a computer and find out all the information.

Buyers wont care about excuses.



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10 Jul 2016, 2:12 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Regardless, most blacks - like most whites - don't commit crimes. A minority from impoverished areas tend to be habitual trouble makers, or people are arrested for drug crimes, which is just a means of racial suppression (proof of that is that far more non-whites are convicted of drug crimes, even though whites use drugs in equal percentages)
And you can see why people would want America to be all white? I presume also all straight, all affluent, all God fearin' fundies. That describes Mayberry, and I don't want to live in Mayberry, as it was devoid of anyone interesting.

Sure.

However, we live in the internet age, where people can type your city and even neighborhood name into a computer and find out all the information.

Buyers wont care about excuses.


Buyers can do whatever the hell they want.


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10 Jul 2016, 2:18 pm

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LoveNotHate,

What do you think the reason is behind Hispanics and black people having less wealth than white people?


They don't inherit as much.

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And also do you think a black person of equal wealth as that of a white person would still be more prone to violence?


When I go to Detroit, I sometimes see a white beggar and black beggar on opposite sides of the street.

In the back of my mind, I somehow think the black person is worse off, so is more dangerous. (They usually look worse off).

The gangster rap and "gang culture" implants in my mind that blacks are more likely to be in gangs, so that makes me think they are more dangerous.

Also, the Detroit news on tv is 90% black crime.

So, long story, yes.



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10 Jul 2016, 3:41 pm

So far as I am concerned, every possible, criminal act can be given a legalistic label, and is also committed by people on the right side of the law.

Most people initiate force, take advantage of others, or stand behind those who do.

I would also like to say that, probably, the very first rule, in 'police science 101' is that everyone is a suspect.

You are like different ethnicities, under imperial Rome, no one better than the other.

Anyone is a potential pawn, under what is called a 'parallel construction' -- in other words, their imaginary fairy tale, about a crime which has been committed, in which anything can be called a crime, and merits whichever arbitrary punishment.

They're playing a game of mad libs, and you, and your demographic, and your profile, are just words, which they can string together.



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10 Jul 2016, 4:30 pm

money and earthly power [largely synonymous] are not everything, and those who say they are have much to learn.