5 officers killed during Dallas protest by snipers

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08 Jul 2016, 11:46 am

Last tweet of police officer Patrick Zamarripa, killed last night in Dallas:

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08 Jul 2016, 12:20 pm

Jacoby wrote:
the guy they killed was named Micah Johnson by exploding his explosive device

the guy appears to be some sort of black militant, CNN saying he was/is an army reservist

here are the likes on his facebook

http://i.imgur.com/l76JuF3.jpg

seems like a black Dylan Roof

but it's unbelievable that he acted alone or isn't affiliated with any group especially with the other 3 in custody

Notice how Facebook will block white supremacist groups but nothing was done with those!! !



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08 Jul 2016, 12:29 pm

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Doubt there's more than 2 actual shooters.

I'd go with 1. Easier to explain a lone wolf (with some insider knowledge), and none of the feats were out of the realm of 1 trained individual.


You may very well turn out to be correct.


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08 Jul 2016, 12:36 pm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... ttack.html

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In addition to the 10 police officers hit by sniper gunfire Thursday night, two civilians were also struck by bullets, including one woman shot the right calf as she departed the Dallas protests with her family. Thirty-seven-year-old Shetamia Taylor was shot when snipers opened fire, shielding her four sons as she took an injury. Taylor’s sister Theresa Williams told reporters her sibling was there with her boys, ages 12 to 17, and threw herself over her sons as shots rang out. Taylor underwent surgery early Friday.


the police chief is suggesting that there are more than 1 person involved, hopefully we know who these 3 other suspects in police custody are soon.

Killer said that he wanted to kill white people and specifically white police officers



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08 Jul 2016, 3:42 pm

The fallout from the Dallas attack:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/poli ... allas.html

A former Illinois rep. tried to stir stuff up even further:

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Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh wrote this on Twitter: “This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you.” He later deleted the tweet and told the Chicago Tribune he wasn’t suggesting an attack on Obama.


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08 Jul 2016, 3:49 pm

beneficii wrote:
The fallout from the Dallas attack:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/poli ... allas.html

A former Illinois rep. tried to stir stuff up even further:

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Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh wrote this on Twitter: “This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you.” He later deleted the tweet and told the Chicago Tribune he wasn’t suggesting an attack on Obama.


Yeah he was a one termer who got into congress in 2010 then was beat by Tammi Duckworth. Who is now running for the senate here BTW. The guy has always been a little nuts.



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08 Jul 2016, 4:52 pm

So, an ex .mil black supremacist.



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08 Jul 2016, 5:59 pm

This all seems part of a now-familiar tragic pattern.

Either rhetoric or actions of mistreatment become more and more overt. We have pastors & imams calling for gays to be put to death, followed by attacks on LGBT people and eventually the shooting of 49 people in a nightclub. We have an ongoing pattern of police officers shooting black men until eventually they shoot one that was fully complying in every possible way, and a black guy shoots five cops dead.

We have a news media machine that makes money off ramping up people's fear into outright paranoia and unbridled anger. Eventually, in a nation of 320 million people, these messages resonate with some percent more than the rest of the masses. And one person snaps. And then another.

And the leaders and media simply shrug their shoulders and say, "Hey, *we* didn't pull the trigger".

And the pattern continues...


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08 Jul 2016, 6:14 pm

There are now a whole bunch of copycat shootings going on:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/gunman-in-t ... 1468014854

At least 1 person has been killed.


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08 Jul 2016, 6:20 pm

Yep

The writing is all over the wall, but the media keep on pushing sensation attached to a specific narrative, which fuels protest groups, which in turn brings out the rare extremists. The advent of the "eyewitness device" has given everyone the ability to see things they'd never see in the majority of a lifetime, and a good portion of people aren't able to see past biases and emotion when viewing these things, and they can't respond with caution--they aren't emotionally intelligent enough to handle it. "Problems" seem worst than what they actually are.

But hey, it's their 1st right.

Naturally, I expect "easy access to powerful weapons" to be a big part of the narrative regarding this incident (even though a man armed with a perfectly acceptable deer rifle would have been able to do the same thing). What about "easy access to powerful imagery devices"? Yeah. Both are arguably silly, as it's ultimately the individual responsible that's to blame (McVeigh is a good example of the same type of extremist).



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08 Jul 2016, 7:41 pm

My thoughts, and my prayers, go out to Dallas tonight. The officers injured are fighting for their lives, and we've already lost five of them to one horrible sicko sniper. This news breaks my heart. God bless the officers for their service.

Oh, and by the way: three more officer-involved shootings tonight, in Missouri, in Valdosta GA, and in Bristol TN. My thoughts and prayers to those officers as well.
People are going crazy. It is sickening.



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08 Jul 2016, 8:08 pm

beneficii wrote:
The fallout from the Dallas attack:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/poli ... allas.html

A former Illinois rep. tried to stir stuff up even further:

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Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh wrote this on Twitter: “This is now war. Watch out Obama. Watch out black lives matter punks. Real America is coming after you.” He later deleted the tweet and told the Chicago Tribune he wasn’t suggesting an attack on Obama.


What did Walsh mean by "Real Americans"? I notice he quickly tried to delete that post...



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08 Jul 2016, 8:18 pm

Dillogic wrote:
Yep

The writing is all over the wall, but the media keep on pushing sensation attached to a specific narrative, which fuels protest groups, which in turn brings out the rare extremists. The advent of the "eyewitness device" has given everyone the ability to see things they'd never see in the majority of a lifetime, and a good portion of people aren't able to see past biases and emotion when viewing these things, and they can't respond with caution--they aren't emotionally intelligent enough to handle it. "Problems" seem worst than what they actually are.

But hey, it's their 1st right.

Naturally, I expect "easy access to powerful weapons" to be a big part of the narrative regarding this incident (even though a man armed with a perfectly acceptable deer rifle would have been able to do the same thing). What about "easy access to powerful imagery devices"? Yeah. Both are arguably silly, as it's ultimately the individual responsible that's to blame (McVeigh is a good example of the same type of extremist).


There is a culture among police in the US (and even here in Australia with black deaths in custody) to expect that a dark skinned person will have something to hide or be more violent towards them. This racial bias is conditioned and probably increases their likelihood of using lethal force when dealing with a black person. The case of Philando Castile illustrates the point given the governor of Minnesota admitted if he was white lethal force would never have been used. This also brings to mind the case of Sandra Bland who was a university student who ended up incarcerated after a routine traffice stop and ended up committing suicide in jail.

Perhaps the police need to nip this in the bud before it escalates again...now with mobile phones and social media the cops can't hide behind lies they were doing their job...



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08 Jul 2016, 8:28 pm

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This racial bias is conditioned and probably increases their likelihood of using lethal force when dealing with a black person.

Leftism is pure religion -- a vast edifice of mythology that no facts can ever shake.

Police more reluctant to shoot blacks than whites, study finds

"[A]n examination of shooting errors found that the officers were 'slightly more than three times less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects.'"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -study-fi/


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08 Jul 2016, 8:38 pm

Darmok wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
This racial bias is conditioned and probably increases their likelihood of using lethal force when dealing with a black person.

Leftism is pure religion -- a vast edifice of mythology that no facts can ever shake.

Police more reluctant to shoot blacks than whites, study finds

"[A]n examination of shooting errors found that the officers were 'slightly more than three times less likely to shoot unarmed Black suspects than unarmed White suspects.'"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... -study-fi/


The article doesn't absolve police from "profiling" which influences their subsequent actions. The police (particularly younger recruits) need to be better educated about being more objective in their conduct



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08 Jul 2016, 9:00 pm

Proactive policing is one of those unfair things that do work; more of group A does something, then police focus on group A more. Perhaps they can remove such in the US if the people don't want it; pretty sure they've done it in some areas now [with a resultant increase in murder].

If you have the look at the BLM and similar protests that stirred the pot (which led to riots, looting and deaths), they were initially based on false accounts of events, which were repeated in mass media--that's clearly not a group that values objectivity. They continue to get riled up over events where all the facts aren't known. Enter more deaths.

There's always going to be the odd event where a police makes a mistake, and it's found by the courts and citizens to be a mistake. That's justice.