Trump brags about grabbing women "by the p***y"

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08 Oct 2016, 11:44 am

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it's nonsense, demoralization and dog piling is the tactic of the day. Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election? When we talk about Bill Clinton it is because he is accused of multiple sexual assaults as was seriel harasser and Hillary was side by side enabling him along the way


Bill Clinton IS NOT running for office, Hillary is. I wish Trump supporters would stop mentioning Bill so much. Plus how many times was it proven that Bill did those things? Zero, RIGHT? Accused and proven are two different things. Also- Trump has been accused of rape how many times? A few at least.

Let's go with facts here- Trump keeps saying crap and it makes him look even worse every time. Many of his supporters are horrible people like he is, so they will of course defend him everytime. So sickening.



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08 Oct 2016, 12:16 pm

Because he is an equal opportunity offender does not mean he is not a misogynist

Everybody is saying this is the end for Trump. I am not convinced for these reasons.

We have heard "this time he has really gone too far" over and over and and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Nothing really new here, this misogyny is consistent with past statements and allegations.

A large segment of his voters will view it as not nice but another example of the unfiltered talk they like.

A lot of male voters have participated in misogynistic discussions like this.

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I have heard repeated claims here and elsewhere that they never heard of such talk in locker rooms. I call BS. The hypocrisy is increadible. Here on WP we have a lot of people without a lot of social experience or maybe in general they grew up more recently when it became less acceptable but I heard it all the time as a teen and young adult in the 70's and 80's. The only difference is they were not rich so either they could not act on what they talked about so they did not say the most egregious parts what is on tape, but plenty of guys did think that highly of themselves. Now that I look back on what the women had to endure where I worked back in the 80's it makes me shudder. Either they slinked into a corner trying not to be noticed or went along with it full bore and became "one of the boys".

Not in locker rooms? Really? A sports star be it a pro, college or high school bieng accused and convicted of violence against females is in the news every day. The act but they do not talk bad, right (SMH).

Like Trump the real politicians are privilaged and whatever sense of entitlement they have get repeatedly validated. But they are politicians and know how not to get caught but since I am not totally cynical also getting married and having daughters can legitimatly change outlook.


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08 Oct 2016, 12:29 pm

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Why do we talk so much about what the candidates did in the past? I would rather know about what they are going to do when they are president. Unfortunately we don't know that because we have spent so much time talking about things that happened several years ago that have little relevance now.


Because many people people never really change so what a person does in the past while far from perfect is a decent predictor of what a person will do in the future.


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08 Oct 2016, 12:46 pm

Trump made the mistake of telling Americans what to think--he said he had the best temperament to be President--which some people took as a challenge to study his background to see if that is really true.



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08 Oct 2016, 1:00 pm

To be fair, both side of the political play the moronic game of deflecting attention to the misdeeds of the opposition.

Some choices we have this year. On one side we have a war hawk shill for the corporate elite; on the other a misogynistic, xenophobic, narcissistic dirt bag.

Anyone who supports ether of them with any level of enthusiasm should be horribly ashamed!


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08 Oct 2016, 1:10 pm

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To be fair, both side of the political play the moronic game of deflecting attention to the misdeeds of the opposition.

Some choices we have this year. On one side we have a war hawk shill for the corporate elite; on the other a misogynistic, xenophobic, narcissistic dirt bag.

Anyone who supports ether of them with any level of enthusiasm should be horribly ashamed!


It's always been between a giant douche bag and a turd sandwich, it's just that this year the douche bag got bigger and the sandwich smellier.



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08 Oct 2016, 1:14 pm

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Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election?


I first read that as "that's supposed to decide the erection?".


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08 Oct 2016, 1:37 pm

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Why do we talk so much about what the candidates did in the past? I would rather know about what they are going to do when they are president. Unfortunately we don't know that because we have spent so much time talking about things that happened several years ago that have little relevance now.

Distinction without a difference.

The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior.

Second the candidate in question rarely speaks about what he will do. And when he does speak about it its always off the top of his head (like he is making it all up as he goes along) in a manner that indicates that he never thought about the issue in his life before the reporter asked about it (like when asked about abortion he didnt know how to be the GOP politically correct Pro Life candidate he is posing as - and spouted that stuff about how 'the woman should be punished' alienating both pro lifers and pro choicers). So what choice do we have but to talk about past behavior? And he has no resume in public service that we can examine anyway (no voting record as a Senator that Hillary has, or of public policy as a governor like Pense has).



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08 Oct 2016, 1:59 pm

Jacoby wrote:
it's nonsense, demoralization and dog piling is the tactic of the day. Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election? When we talk about Bill Clinton it is because he is accused of multiple sexual assaults as was seriel harasser and Hillary was side by side enabling him along the way


He didn't just make "off colour" comments, though. He bragged about sexually assaulting women and that they can't do anything about it because he's rich and famous. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think it's OK to talk about people like this in any context. I'm actually amazed it took you this long to defend him in this thread though, I expected you to come in here with some ridiculousness sooner than you have.


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08 Oct 2016, 2:02 pm

True both candidates are corrupt liars and cheats, but there is one trait that does differentiate them: one is a cro-magnon and wants to move the country to place where cro-magnon laws (jungle), cro-magnon morality (I'll kill you before you even think of killing me), and cro-magnon social behavior (hit the woman on the head and take her home, asking is for p*****s) are the norm. The other is a homo sapien and seems to think homo sapien world of today, while not perfect, is a hell of a lot better than the cro-magnon world of yore.



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08 Oct 2016, 2:05 pm

^Defending the indefensible is not an easy task. It takes time to construct a BS position.


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08 Oct 2016, 2:08 pm

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Jacoby wrote:
it's nonsense, demoralization and dog piling is the tactic of the day. Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election? When we talk about Bill Clinton it is because he is accused of multiple sexual assaults as was seriel harasser and Hillary was side by side enabling him along the way


He didn't just make "off colour" comments, though. He bragged about sexually assaulting women and that they can't do anything about it because he's rich and famous. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think it's OK to talk about people like this in any context. I'm actually amazed it took you this long to defend him in this thread though, I expected you to come in here with some ridiculousness sooner than you have.


He said something stupid in private, lot of people do. It's not as bad as the things that Bill Clinton did to women and Hillary was culpable all along the way. Bill literally raped someone, surely you can't support that ticket either if you are any bit consistent.



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08 Oct 2016, 2:18 pm

Not a day goes by without Trump being a negative influence.... -_-



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08 Oct 2016, 2:28 pm

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He said something stupid in private, lot of people do. It's not as bad as the things that Bill Clinton did to women and Hillary was culpable all along the way. Bill literally raped someone, surely you can't support that ticket either if you are any bit consistent.


First: the "it's just locker room talk"-- that'd be fine if he was merely responding to what was going on, but it's very clear he wasn't a follower, he was the leader in that conversation. If anyone was "put on the spot" it wasn't Trump, it was the reporter he was talking to.

Second: Once we've figured out what Trump did 10 years ago then we can go back and look at what Bill Clinton did 20 years ago...there's an entire chronology, that which is closer is more important by the dictum of time itself.

Third: Actually we'll talk about Bill Clinton when he runs for another office. He's not the candidate, his wife is. This one was established by Hammurabi all the way back in the first dynasty of Babylon when he decreed the family of a criminal is not responsible for the criminal. No one's changed that concept in 4,000 years, and Donald's not near powerful enough to change a 4,000 year precedent that's been widely accepted by every western nation and even a good portion of third world nations.

Fourth: I strongly suggest stocking up on tissues for election night.



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08 Oct 2016, 2:33 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
it's nonsense, demoralization and dog piling is the tactic of the day. Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election? When we talk about Bill Clinton it is because he is accused of multiple sexual assaults as was seriel harasser and Hillary was side by side enabling him along the way


He didn't just make "off colour" comments, though. He bragged about sexually assaulting women and that they can't do anything about it because he's rich and famous. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think it's OK to talk about people like this in any context. I'm actually amazed it took you this long to defend him in this thread though, I expected you to come in here with some ridiculousness sooner than you have.


He said something stupid in private, lot of people do. It's not as bad as the things that Bill Clinton did to women and Hillary was culpable all along the way. Bill literally raped someone, surely you can't support that ticket either if you are any bit consistent.


Trump literally raped someone too. Look up what he has been accused of. Just because one person does it, doesn't mean the other has a free pass. Two wrongs don't make a right ever.

Also stop trying to derail this topic. This topic is about Trump's crap, not the Clintons. You just cant help it though, can you? You see a negative topic about Trump and you have to interject with a comment about the Clintons nearly every time.



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08 Oct 2016, 2:35 pm

Jacoby wrote:
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Jacoby wrote:
it's nonsense, demoralization and dog piling is the tactic of the day. Trump made some off color comments, thats suppose to decide the election? When we talk about Bill Clinton it is because he is accused of multiple sexual assaults as was seriel harasser and Hillary was side by side enabling him along the way


He didn't just make "off colour" comments, though. He bragged about sexually assaulting women and that they can't do anything about it because he's rich and famous. There is something seriously wrong with you if you think it's OK to talk about people like this in any context. I'm actually amazed it took you this long to defend him in this thread though, I expected you to come in here with some ridiculousness sooner than you have.


He said something stupid in private, lot of people do. It's not as bad as the things that Bill Clinton did to women and Hillary was culpable all along the way. Bill literally raped someone, surely you can't support that ticket either if you are any bit consistent.


I'm going to let you hang yourself with your own rope, like Hillary did with Trump in the last debate (and likely will do again Sunday night.)


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