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08 Jun 2021, 8:44 pm

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Why should we even listen to bitter and miserable people

Apparently people are

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08 Jun 2021, 8:46 pm

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Why should we even listen to bitter and miserable people

To understand why they're bitter and miserable.
Especially because if we didn't we'd only have very few people left to listen to.

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08 Jun 2021, 8:49 pm

Yes, of course there are bitter and miserable people in the world.....but I don't find that they are in the majority over all. Even people who have suffered particularly severe trauma.

I just say that I, myself, are lucky not to have suffered severe trauma---yet even I, at times, feel sort of "world-weary."

I feel like most people have spells of being bitter and miserable....but, upon reflection, most of these people lose the mood pretty quickly.

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08 Jun 2021, 8:50 pm

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This person is stereotyping white people like white people stereotype black people.

I'm always willing to acknowledge that there is racism in our society....I'm always willing to discuss it. I'm not an ostrich burying my head in the sand. I live in New York City. I grew up in a segregated neighborhood.

But I am not for anybody justifying violence against a person by virtue of the person's race, and nothing else. Of whatever race or ethnic group. This person goes beyond the pale.

Discussing a fantasy isn't the same as justifying violence though

So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

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08 Jun 2021, 8:53 pm

Any form of extremism, ultimately, is a whole bunch of crap.

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08 Jun 2021, 8:59 pm

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So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

If white supremacists were having the same discussion the analogous experience would be due to severe delusions and my main problem would be with why that person isn't receiving professional help. :wink:

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08 Jun 2021, 8:59 pm

Brictoria wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Discussing a fantasy isn't the same as justifying violence though

So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

That's not what their bible, the Turner diaries say though is it.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:02 pm

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Yes, of course there are bitter and miserable people in the world.....but I don't find that they are in the majority over all. Even people who have suffered particularly severe trauma.

How do you know Kraftie?

This is why CRT leaves it to those who suffer racism to be the ones to speak about their experience. Not have whitefolk tell them its all in their mind. Ironically that's precisely the trigger for Dr Khilanani's fantasies.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:02 pm

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Exactly, that's how healthy people tend to experience those moments.
But it shouldn't be scandalous to discuss having those moments; one shouldn't have their words misconstrued as advocating for violence when they're not.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:04 pm

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Yes, of course there are bitter and miserable people in the world.....but I don't find that they are in the majority over all. Even people who have suffered particularly severe trauma.

People don't just get bitter and miserable when they have bad experiences, being consistently invalidated when discussing one's negative experiences contributes to trauma and makes it more likely they'll be bitter and miserable.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:09 pm

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Ironically there's a white rapper named Tom MacDonald who gives extremely good insight into what Dr Khilanani might be going through in a song called "if I was black", MacDonald has been accused of being a pro-white racist but infact he hits the nail on the head perfectly.

From what I can tell, that was the counterpart to another video he did, showing the stereotypes that exist and are put forward about different races: The other song along that line (looking at white stereotypes) was:

I found this one quite interesting as well...

I may have to listen to some of the other ones he has - Not normally a fan of that type of music, but what I've heard so far is certainly interesting - Do you have any other recommendations from him?

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08 Jun 2021, 9:17 pm

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So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

Anyone, regardless of their race, having fanatsies about doing harm to another person\group of people because of their race would seem to be in need of "professional help"...

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08 Jun 2021, 9:32 pm

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So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

Anyone, regardless of their race, having fanatsies about doing harm to another person\group of people because of their race would seem to be in need of "professional help"...

If it's the result of systemic racism and gaslighting yes, they might need professional help, but fixing the cause is important to ensuring that the problem is solved, otherwise the trauma resulting in the need for professional help will continue to occur.

The two aren't actually equal and it's dishonest to pretend like people impacted by a real and observable issue having toxic feelings as a result are the same as people who who have delusions that a Jewish conspiracy (or some other, similar delusion one would need to suffer in order to pretend that white people are actually being persecuted) is actively working to exterminate them and have toxic feelings as a result.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:32 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:

Brictoria wrote:

So, in the same vein, you don't see "white supremecy" as much of an issue, provided they are only "discussing their fantasies" in the same manner as this lecturer did, and not justifying violence?

Anyone, regardless of their race, having fanatsies about doing harm to another person\group of people because of their race would seem to be in need of "professional help"...

Agreed! but for the help they need are for different reasons.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:33 pm

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Agreed! but for the help they need are for different reasons.

Exactly, legit trauma vs. a persecution complex.

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08 Jun 2021, 9:38 pm

If a Jew in Nazi Germany talked about fantasizing about killing “Aryans,” I would raise the same objections.

“Critical Race Theory,” in some aspects, just doesn’t feel totally right to me.

I’m not invalidating anyone’s experiences of racism by not believing totally in CRT.

Just like I’m not a Commie for believing in socially liberal ideas.

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