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30 Oct 2017, 1:14 pm

EzraS wrote:
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If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


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30 Oct 2017, 7:50 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
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If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(



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30 Oct 2017, 7:53 pm

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How exactly was it a fallacy? Trump made a joke about how rich and famous men have women throwing themselves at them and he said he can just "grab them by the p****" in no way does that mean he confessed to sexual assault.


Curious coincidence he has 16 women making claims against him and has links to people who have sexually assaulted young women before. He's also on the record heaping praise on known paedophiles.

Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was charged with soliciting underaged girls for sex for which he was jailed.
Epstein, 64, was a regular for several years at Trump's Mar-a-Lago. Testimony in a prior court case indicated that Trump flew at least once on one of the planes Epstein owned and Trump’s phone numbers were in Epstein’s personal phone directory.

Trump has also indicated publicly he knew of Epstein’s interest in “younger” women, although he never suggested the financier crossed any legal lines. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,’’ Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”


I am not defending Trump or say he did or did not do anything just that his grab her by the p**** comment is not a confession.

Bill Cosby never confessed either but the body of evidence was compelling enough to put him on trial.



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30 Oct 2017, 8:00 pm

I have no idea if Trump is a rapist or not, my whole point was his grab her by the p**** comment was not a confession the media treated it like it was which is how you turn a multi billionaire into an underdog.



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30 Oct 2017, 8:19 pm

When lots of women are doing it, as with Weinstein, it's very likely true.

Bill Clinton's also been accused of multiple acts of sexual misconduct, up to and including rape.

Heads of state love to think they're above the law.


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30 Oct 2017, 8:36 pm

cyberdad wrote:
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How exactly was it a fallacy? Trump made a joke about how rich and famous men have women throwing themselves at them and he said he can just "grab them by the p****" in no way does that mean he confessed to sexual assault.


Curious coincidence he has 16 women making claims against him and has links to people who have sexually assaulted young women before. He's also on the record heaping praise on known paedophiles.

Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein was charged with soliciting underaged girls for sex for which he was jailed.
Epstein, 64, was a regular for several years at Trump's Mar-a-Lago. Testimony in a prior court case indicated that Trump flew at least once on one of the planes Epstein owned and Trump’s phone numbers were in Epstein’s personal phone directory.

Trump has also indicated publicly he knew of Epstein’s interest in “younger” women, although he never suggested the financier crossed any legal lines. “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,’’ Trump told New York Magazine back in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”


I am not defending Trump or say he did or did not do anything just that his grab her by the p**** comment is not a confession.

Bill Cosby never confessed either but the body of evidence was compelling enough to put him on trial.


The point is, Trump's comment was not him saying that he engaged in groping.



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30 Oct 2017, 8:39 pm

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I have no idea if Trump is a rapist or not, my whole point was his grab her by the p**** comment was not a confession the media treated it like it was which is how you turn a multi billionaire into an underdog.


Exactly. It clearly backfired. Yet some still persist in using it. There's an antidote that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.



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30 Oct 2017, 10:19 pm

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(


A troll? :? I think not.


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30 Oct 2017, 10:20 pm

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I have no idea if Trump is a rapist or not, my whole point was his grab her by the p**** comment was not a confession the media treated it like it was which is how you turn a multi billionaire into an underdog.


I think it's a bit of a stretch to call Trump an underdog by anyone's perception.


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30 Oct 2017, 10:28 pm

When the media was so against him and so pro Hillary you make him seem like an underdog, if they actually treated him fairly I honestly believe he would not have one. I understand I am not American this is just my outsiders view.



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30 Oct 2017, 10:50 pm

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When the media was so against him and so pro Hillary you make him seem like an underdog, if they actually treated him fairly I honestly believe he would not have one. I understand I am not American this is just my outsiders view.


For all the talk of the media being against Trump, even the liberal news outlets gave him far more coverage than they did Clinton, Sanders, or any of Trump's fellow Republican candidates. If anything, the media created his Presidency.


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30 Oct 2017, 11:33 pm

Yeah but from what I saw the vast majority of it was negative and not negative about things that really mattered but petty things.



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30 Oct 2017, 11:48 pm

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Yeah but from what I saw the vast majority of it was negative and not negative about things that really mattered but petty things.


It can argued that all Trump used to rile up his base was petty stuff, whether it was about his boondoggle plan for a wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for - and which was directed at them for their stereotypical criminality, or his pronouncements of racism, his coddling of Alt Right white nationalists, or his calls for physical violence against protesters, or his baseless conspiracy theories about everything from global warming being a Chinese hoax to ideas that the Clinton's were involved with pedophile cannibal cultists (no, I'm not making that up). The list of pettiness on Trump's part seems endless.


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30 Oct 2017, 11:59 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(


A troll? :? I think not.


Hey now you trolled me good. Be proud.



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31 Oct 2017, 12:03 am

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Yeah but from what I saw the vast majority of it was negative and not negative about things that really mattered but petty things.


Most of what was used was either ineffective or backfired. And yet they keep using it.



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31 Oct 2017, 12:39 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
karathraceandherspecialdestiny wrote:
Daniel89 wrote:
If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(


A troll? :? I think not.


Hey now you trolled me good. Be proud.


If I did, then it was unintentional and I apologize. There is a member on WP who used to try provoking me at every turn, till I think he was threatened with permanent expulsion if he didn't keep his distance. I have zero interest in in trying to inflict hurt on others simply to get a rise out of them.


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