cberg wrote:
It's the us v. them mentality that concerns me more.
I agree, to me it seems that's mostly the left way of thinking. I know it exists on both sides, but left wing media, journalism and people seem to be much more prone to have that kind of mentality. I'm not saying
you. I do understand that typically on both sides it a us versus them deal, but it sure seems that a lot of people on the left tend to lie more, be more hateful and insist that only white people are racist. When people talk about how racist the right is, they generally point at an incredibly small amount of people known as white supremacists. I'm not even on the right and that is how I see it, it seems to be so. It's debatable how many on the left are hateful, it seems like there are a lot of them but I have heard a lot of reports about the hardcore left wing journalists loosing followers. I don't like lying, it's obviously a bad thing. The only right-wing news I watch is Tucker Carlson, the only journalist I completely trust on the left is Tim Pool. I have caught Hanity lying, I have caught snoopes fact check lying, left wing mainstream media is too ridiculous for me to watch. I do not trust any source of news that 'may' lie from time to time, that is not what I consider reliable. I've seen polls that show that most people in the US have very low confidence of the accuracy of news. I don't trust all the things they say about Trump because when I spend time to actually research it, it always ends of being fake news. When Trump was running for president, left wing media outlets would aim their cameras at portions of the crowds that were mostly white, then they would say the only people going to his rallies where racist white people. I saw someone get kicked out of a Trump rally for wearing a KKK uniform. Now how he got there is a mystery. There was this popular left wing guy, Lenin? Who developed a crooked strategy for how to beat your political enemy, doing things like going to their rallies dressed in KKK uniforms to make it appear that the clan supported them. I do not agree with tactics like that, that means they can't win with their political views or ideas, so how they try to win is by lying and cheating. Then I see this occurring with Trump, I hear reports with it happening to Candace Owens. She is a black lady, she told her white friends that she was considering voting republican or something like that, so what her white friends did was call her and leave a lot of very racist messages on her phone. She reported it to the police, they traced the calls back to her democratic white friends, their goal was to show her 'how racist republicans are'. There is the Jussie case, fake hate crime "trump voters did it", I saw another one where a black guy did not realize he was being taped by a street camera, painting racist white supremacy stuff on someone's car to make it look like 'racist Trump voters at it again', then the constant flood of Trump hate lies in media, he said white supremacists are "fine people", I watched the actual clip, yet again he made it extremely clear, "no i'm not saying white supremacist are fine people, they are bad, horrible people'. Then the other one I showed you today, and I use common sense, Minorities support Trump, they go to his rallies, including Mexicans, obviously they wouldn't vote for a guy who hates them because they are minorities, that seems pretty direct. When I tell some leftists this, they say things like, Well, black people can be racist against blacks. While I do understand that, I imagine it's not that popular of a thing, Dave Chappelle is the only black white supremacist I have ever heard of and that was a comedy skit. This site frustrates me because it is an echo chamber for lies against Trump, even after you show them it is a lie, and then sometimes they will not even admit it was a lie even with the video evidence. I know what you are talking about with creating digital people to make them say things, the problem is that wasn't the case with the "animals" lie, what it was is they removed the portion of the clip that clarified that he was talking about MS-13. I show you that and you say it doesn't even mater, I think it's pretty extreme to defend an extremely violent gang that's known for cutting people's heads off, as if it's wrong to call them "animals", they are in fact worse than animals, just imagine it was someone you cared about that 'snitched' on them so they cut their head off and posted it on youtube. There was a case recently, I think in the UK, a guy that kidnapped a 16 year old girl and gang raped her with 2 others was being deported, so idiots on a plane started rising up to defend him and made the police let him go. The dumb-asses didn't know why he was being deported, neither did they care, simply because he played them,"don't let them deport me and separate me from my family". Then the girl who got raped finds out about it and questions, "why did people defend my rapist and demand him be released to walk free?". It gets frustrating to watch people put morals before common sense.It also becomes frustrating to watch people constantly lie about the only president I have ever cared for. I know Trump is more than likely a POS, but he is much better than the POS's we have been getting that seem to want to do nothing to help the country, they do things to fill their pockets and score brownie points with corporations. It has been an extremely long time in the US where a president actually did things to help America, he doesn't belong to the lobbyists, that is why everybody hates him and constantly lie about him, because he isn't playing the corrupt game they normally play, he is independent from them. Sure he still probably does some bad things, but no where near like others, so people are trying to get rid of him, for firing a lot of corrupt people, reducing white house expenses, wanting border security, increasing wages for the working class(which was the purpose of lowering taxes for the rich, apparently it worked because wages are going up as a result of that), he lowered taxes for everybody, and small business are benefiting as a result, I mean small business like someone with a restaurant. He re did a lot of our trade deals we were getting screwed on, he passed a bill on infrastructure to make it where with infrastructure you have to buy materials from america and hire Americans which is preventing China from killing our economy by pumping cheep steel into our country, we can't compete with a country that pushes slave labor unless we are willing to have slaves. We have deemed that very wrong in the US, so there is no way to compete with china in a free market, because we do not push slave labor in the US. The economy is doing great, Americans are greatly benefiting from what Trump is doing while they a constantly lying, bitching and trying to get him impeached. In my mind, I'm like, way to go spoiled a**holes, kick out the only president that's actually improving our economy and wasn't bought by 'Goldman Sachs"! And not one argument I have heard about Trump has actually panned out to be factual, it all moral claims where the repeat lies that various forms of media have presented, number one argument, "her is racist", the only actual evidence for that is from way back in his past and I have even watched black people speak up on what he did further in the future giving millions, including blacks, a place to work for a good living. Not one claim I have heard past that has actually turned out to be legit.
Anyway, I know no one will believe me, I know no one will take anything I have said as serious, and I have already discovered that you can show people here their claim is false and they will simply bring it back up a week later with the same claim as if the previous discussion never took place. People keep using the same false claims over and over, doesn't matter how much evidence you have, I have most certainly figured that one out. So I know I'm not going to convince you of anything and all I did was waste my time explaining anything. I understand you aren't a bad person, I'm not saying you are lying, I did find you defending MS-13 a little extreme though, and I don't know, it seemed like you were saying it's ok for people to spread lies to get rid of Trump? I'm a good person also, I'm not racist, I'm not even all white, imagine how frustrating it is for me, to see people constantly say that he has been saying lots of racist things when not one of the claims is actually factual. Just like people keep claiming all over youtuber, if you support Trump you have to hide it because people will show you just how hateful they can be. Minorities, especially blacks, have to hide their support for Trump from their own family. If you think minorities hate Trump, all I can say is visit youtube and watch
#walkaway videos, the movement was started by a LGBT man and is growing pretty rapidly among LGBT and minorities, and one thing you will notice is how they mention how hateful a lot of people on the left are becoming, anyone who is LGBT who ends up supporting trump all of a sudden gets labeled as 'alt-right', that tends to piss them off, when you can't even have a discussion with out people banning your event and labeling you an alt-right. The #walkaway videos are being uploaded every day, more and more people planning on voting for Trump, most of the videos are LBGT and minorities but there is also a lot of white people making them too. #walkaway is people getting tired of how hateful a lot of people on the left are becoming so they are walking away from the democratic party. Funny how all these people don't see the hate in Trump like nearly everyone here does.
Edit: In fact, I started a topic in PPR, but realized that no one cares about that kinda stuff here, they would just rather hate trump for made up reasons.
09 Apr 2019, 7:43 pm
