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05 Jul 2019, 7:23 pm

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If Johnson had said "I’ll have those African Americans voting democratic for 200 years" it would not have been any better. His overall commentary indicated ulterior motives. Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

The impact of hearing a southern white male use the n word in the 1960s was probably not the same as today. Remember this is the 1960s when even democrat voters still thought of blacks and Mexicans as seperate communities to "average Americans" so terms/names were probably common, at least behind closed doors.

You are still focusing on the N word after I made it clear the N word was not really the issue. I, and others based on what they have said, get the feeling that you do not really read posts or the articles that you submit and are just winging it.

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05 Jul 2019, 7:42 pm

I read...you project your own dimensional world view on what is happening in the real world, that's pretty obvious. The African American community don't trust republicans which is why support for this party is always in single digits.

I try and give reasons why they (self-evidently) don't trust conservative white America...

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05 Jul 2019, 7:49 pm

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Anything critical of right wing politics now can just be seen as people hating Trump. We can trace that back to those who never accepted the result of the election and pushed ghost stories about Russia and lost the plot over anything Trump done. Why did Trump win? Because of the arrogance of liberals and he was anti war. Liberals have become more arrogant and attack Trump if he's anti war or if he threatens war. But then they praise him for dropping bombs. The great thing about liberals is they get to make the rules up as they go along.

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05 Jul 2019, 7:58 pm

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I read...you project your own dimensional world view on what is happening in the real world, that's pretty obvious. The African American community don't trulst republicans which is why support for this party is always in single digits.

I try and give reasons why they (self-evidently) don't trust conservative white America...

That is an offshoot of what is being discussed. However I would say that lack of trust might have to do with the left continuously telling them that white people and republicans are nazis.

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05 Jul 2019, 10:35 pm

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You get your 'history' and opinions from Hollywood movies. I get my information from American authors and journalists who understand reality. Your denial after the Russiagate hoax ended shows I'm wasting my time.

Uh, no. I have a Bachelors degree in history. I think it's a fair assessment that the authors and journalists you've been reading hardly represent legitimate historical research and scholarship, and is the "tripe" of the racist far right.

To be honest you do not sound much like a historian. Your style of rhetoric does sound more like it is based on movies and spy novels and the like.

Why, because I disagree with you about the American political right and left? Rhetoric matters little; it's facts that matter, and I have the facts on my side.

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05 Jul 2019, 10:38 pm

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And yet you have no counter argument about your erroneous sources. So,

, right back at you.

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05 Jul 2019, 10:42 pm

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That is an offshoot of what is being discussed. However I would say that lack of trust might have to do with the left continuously telling them that white people and republicans are nazis.

I think the example set by the right regarding support of rolling back civil rights legislation, race based voter fraud, racial gerrymandering, and support of clearly racist politicians like Steve King (the idiot, not the writer), etc, has more to do with African Americans voting Democrat.

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05 Jul 2019, 10:59 pm

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That is an offshoot of what is being discussed. However I would say that lack of trust might have to do with the left continuously telling them that white people and republicans are nazis.

Just laugh while the Democratic party stops Tulsi Gabbard and then implodes when Trump wins again and blames Russia again. Don't waste your time with this hysteria. They know nothing about history or the present. They just see Nazis and racism everywhere while spewing hatred at white people and making excuses for their side while they bomb brown and black people and while they create black slaves again in Libya. There's literally no point talking to such people.

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05 Jul 2019, 11:03 pm

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I love it how liberals make the excuse "he was a man of his time". They do it about Churchill who was a war mongering, racist psycho. But they want us to remember Hitler is always here.

Never met a liberal who thought highly of Churchill?

Most liberals love Churchill, who was a racist war monger. That's the hilarious irony of liberals. They have no principles and just make things up as they go along.

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05 Jul 2019, 11:30 pm

Still trying to divert thread topics away from the truth, I see -- EzraS and JohnPowell will post anything to keep people from dwelling on the truth, which is that James Alex Fields Jr. deliberately rammed his car into a crowd of people and murdered Heather Heyer. For this and other hate crimes, he received a well-deserved life sentence. He even pled guilty to 29 of 30 federal charges in exchange for the prosecutors not seeking the death penalty. James Alex Fields Jr. is a murderer, a coward, and a typical white supremacist.

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06 Jul 2019, 12:42 am

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I love it how liberals make the excuse "he was a man of his time". They do it about Churchill who was a war mongering, racist psycho. But they want us to remember Hitler is always here.

Never met a liberal who thought highly of Churchill?

Most liberals love Churchill, who was a racist war monger. That's the hilarious irony of liberals. They have no principles and just make things up as they go along.

Ironically agree with you on Churchill...did he have anything much to do with the foundation of Israel?

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06 Jul 2019, 12:47 am

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Not to mention the plethora of pro-Alt right twitter feed that posted afterward which tried to claim Heyer "asked for it" because she was protesting against the tikki torch brigade.

No doubt those "heroes" who anonymously took pot shots at Heather Heyer and her mother would behave like this coward if their names were made public
https://www.thedailybeast.com/crying-na ... -suing-him

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06 Jul 2019, 2:18 am

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That is all just stating the obvious which I have no argument against or desire to divert from. I am not arguing with the obvious. It is what else is being interjected into that which is being commented on. If you and others do not want the thread to divert from the nuts and bolts of the topic, it is best if insinuations are not interjected into it that are going to prompt rebuttals.

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06 Jul 2019, 3:17 am

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The video i posted in the other thread debunks this. Of course he plead guilty when stitched up with the death penalty. It should have been manslaughter.

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06 Jul 2019, 3:18 am

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cyberdad wrote:

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cyberdad wrote:

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I love it how liberals make the excuse "he was a man of his time". They do it about Churchill who was a war mongering, racist psycho. But they want us to remember Hitler is always here.

Never met a liberal who thought highly of Churchill?

Most liberals love Churchill, who was a racist war monger. That's the hilarious irony of liberals. They have no principles and just make things up as they go along.

Ironically agree with you on Churchill...did he have anything much to do with the foundation of Israel?

You know he did. He compared Palestinians and Native Americans to dogs.

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06 Jul 2019, 5:05 am

Churchill was also a man of his time, I gather his views reflected that of mainstream British society

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