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31 Oct 2017, 1:03 am

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Yeah but from what I saw the vast majority of it was negative and not negative about things that really mattered but petty things.


Most of what was used was either ineffective or backfired. And yet they keep using it.

Allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump are not fake news Ezra. In addition to the allegations (which predate his presidency) there is his profile as a womaniser and comments which actually do nothing to deflect the suspicion he is a serial groper.

According to his ex wife Ivanka, Trump violently assaulted and raped her is a sworn deposition she made during their divorce proceedings.

The divorce case between Donald and Ivana Trump was granted on the grounds of his "cruel and inhuman treatment" of her, according to a report in the New York Times in December 1990. Ivanka Trump was also subject to a gag order, which stops her from talking about her marriage to Donald Trump without his permission.

English television presenter Selina Scott claimed Mr Trump became "extremely abusive" and wrote 13 letters attacking her when he realised he wouldn't have control over a documentary film she was making about him. She said: “It surprises me that any woman in America can vote for this guy.”



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31 Oct 2017, 4:48 am

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Yeah but from what I saw the vast majority of it was negative and not negative about things that really mattered but petty things.

Most of what was used was either ineffective or backfired. And yet they keep using it.

Allegations of sexual misconduct against Trump are not fake news Ezra. In addition to the allegations (which predate his presidency) there is his profile as a womaniser and comments which actually do nothing to deflect the suspicion he is a serial groper.

According to his ex wife Ivanka, Trump violently assaulted and raped her is a sworn deposition she made during their divorce proceedings.

The divorce case between Donald and Ivana Trump was granted on the grounds of his "cruel and inhuman treatment" of her, according to a report in the New York Times in December 1990. Ivanka Trump was also subject to a gag order, which stops her from talking about her marriage to Donald Trump without his permission.

English television presenter Selina Scott claimed Mr Trump became "extremely abusive" and wrote 13 letters attacking her when he realised he wouldn't have control over a documentary film she was making about him. She said: “It surprises me that any woman in America can vote for this guy.”


What does any of that have to do with the post you're relying to? Or is this another red herring?



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31 Oct 2017, 4:53 am

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If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(


A troll? :? I think not.


Hey now you trolled me good. Be proud.


If I did, then it was unintentional and I apologize. There is a member on WP who used to try provoking me at every turn, till I think he was threatened with permanent expulsion if he didn't keep his distance. I have zero interest in in trying to inflict hurt on others simply to get a rise out of them.


This like some kind of Jekyll and Hyde thing. I'm not sure what to think or believe about it at this point. But I'll likely forget all about it an a short while anyways.



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31 Oct 2017, 12:33 pm

EzraS wrote:
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If I made a joke about cutting off people's heads that doesn't mean I have actually cut off anyone's head or supporting cutting off people's heads.


It might not on it's own, but if multiple witnesses claimed to have seen you cutting off several people's heads then suddenly that "joke" you made would be highly suspicious. It would seem like a confession, then.


If several witnesses suddenly came out if the woodwork after the statement was made, they're the ones I'd find suspicious.


Even if a bunch of decapitated corpses were constantly being found?


You're talking about physical evedence. So what real life physical evedence exists to match your analogy?


We're talking about a hypothetical situation here... unless you know something about decapitated bodies that the rest of us don't! :o


No you used the analogy of decapitated bodies to represent physical evedence. I asked what actual physical evedence exists in conjunction with the analogy.

An honest answer from you would be "none". And then in honesty you'd admit that your analogy was inapplicable.


Are we talking about decapitated bodies, or Trump's serial sexual assault?


It's your red herring, you tell me.


Or is it yours, but slipped out of your control? BWA HA HA HA!


You got me, I didn't realize you decided to become a troll :(


A troll? :? I think not.


Hey now you trolled me good. Be proud.


If I did, then it was unintentional and I apologize. There is a member on WP who used to try provoking me at every turn, till I think he was threatened with permanent expulsion if he didn't keep his distance. I have zero interest in in trying to inflict hurt on others simply to get a rise out of them.


This like some kind of Jekyll and Hyde thing. I'm not sure what to think or believe about it at this point. But I'll likely forget all about it an a short while anyways.


I might be argumentative, but I I hope I don't come across as a troll. No Jekyll and Hyde about it.


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31 Oct 2017, 3:32 pm

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What does any of that have to do with the post you're relying to? Or is this another red herring?


I think the evidence is stacking up that he (Trump) is quite capable of doing the things he's alleged to have done.



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31 Oct 2017, 3:46 pm

Not on Fox Fake News, however, and people who only get their "news" from there, and Breitbart, and Alex Jones, will never get it.



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31 Oct 2017, 7:18 pm

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What does any of that have to do with the post you're relying to? Or is this another red herring?


I think the evidence is stacking up that he (Trump) is quite capable of doing the things he's alleged to have done.


I was just debating the comment he made on the bus.

As for anything further, considering the extreme level of hostility and sheer desperation of some to get him out of office, I think a considerable amount of what's said against him has to be taken with a grain of salt.



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31 Oct 2017, 7:26 pm

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Not on Fox Fake News, however, and people who only get their "news" from there, and Breitbart, and Alex Jones, will never get it.


Likewise those who only get their "news" from sources that are on a constant smear campaign, will never get it.

That's why I avoid both extremes.



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31 Oct 2017, 9:37 pm

I can recommend Reuters to you then.



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31 Oct 2017, 10:11 pm

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I can recommend Reuters to you then.


As I've posted many times, Reuters has always been my preference, along with AP and NPR.



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01 Nov 2017, 12:48 am

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What does any of that have to do with the post you're relying to? Or is this another red herring?


I think the evidence is stacking up that he (Trump) is quite capable of doing the things he's alleged to have done.


I was just debating the comment he made on the bus.

As for anything further, considering the extreme level of hostility and sheer desperation of some to get him out of office, I think a considerable amount of what's said against him has to be taken with a grain of salt.


It's a sign of the times. My feeling is that people who voted for trump included plenty of (otherwise level headed) folks who picked out superficial crap that he boasted (prior to getting elected) rather than examine the man in more holistic terms of what he stands for and his lack of qualification for the role

In the UK people had a brain freeze over voting for Brexit. Afterward plenty of people (including the current prime minister) regretted the decision. If another referendum took place the Brits would opt to stay in the EU. If Bernie Sanders ran against Trump in an early election then Trump will be history.

In this electronic age people are over saturated with media news and can't (or won't) critically evaluate the evidence. I think both Brexit and Trump had a lot to do with hitting a nerve with insecure voters scared of Mexicans (Trump voters) and refugees (Brexit voters) taking jobs