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03 Oct 2020, 6:06 am

i will break out the party hearty supplies only IF that man and HIS FASCIST PARTY are OUT OF POWER!!

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03 Oct 2020, 6:18 am

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Anyone noticing that it's republicans testing positive? I have yet to hear about democratic politicians being tested positive. mmmmm. :chin:

The virus should never have been political.

But people decided it was their 'political opinion' that they shouldn't have to lockdown or wear masks.

Actions have consequences. Not going to be like a tweeter and say that in this specific instance or with any sense of schadenfreude over Trump, but just, in general you're more likely to get the virus if you don't take the virus seriously. Esp if you're (like many on the right and many on the tabloid reading side of things) an older person who's higher risk anyway.

It's why I'm glad my own granddad is so safe/careful/sensible about it and knows this virus is real & takes it seriously.

It was my point. The right wing were not taking this seriously and they were saying this was all a hoax and refusing to wear masks and now I am hearing they are getting the corona and I keep hearing the democrat's are testing negative. I wonder if it's some coincidence or is the media being bias.

Exactly.

It should never have been politicised.

A capitalist economy can be kept going with masks. So I don't get why they tried to politicise it.

Even most of a capitalist economy can be kept going with people at home. Of course that would upset the left/working class as it's the working class 'work with my hands' type of jobs that can't go on from home. Imo the working classes needed a furlough to stay safe. But if you're in an office, there's no reason why the work can't be done from home.

And - relevant to this case - there's no reason why the debates couldn't have been done via video link between the studio, the white house (not the oval office as that would create an air of authority Biden couldn't have, more like a separate office) and Biden's house.

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03 Oct 2020, 6:44 am

Beady is a very cautious and considerate poster. She only “speaks” when she knows what she says carries relevance. I’m not as good as she is in that sense.

My honest feeling is that she doesn’t like Trump for very good reasons. Trump makes apolitical people political just by the constant absurdity he produces on a daily basis.

Saying this, I hope Trump fully recovers with no complications, and that he loses the election with grace, and goes back to reality television.

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03 Oct 2020, 6:51 am

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03 Oct 2020, 7:09 am

How many heads of state have gotten this virus so far? Anyone know?

As pointed out several pages above: Boris Johnson managed to pull through. Got oxygen, but wasnt put on a ventilator, and was able to keep in touch with his cabinet via "the wizardry of modern technology" (Johnson's words). But though both Trump and Johnson are in more than one risk group Trump is deeper into the risk zone (both are over fifty, but Trump is 18 years older, and a little more obese).

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03 Oct 2020, 7:14 am

I feel Johnson was actually in poorer shape than Trump before he got COVID. He was a real party animal in his younger days. Trump isn’t as profligate in the purely “partying” sense as Johnson was.

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03 Oct 2020, 7:25 am

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I was actually serious with my comment. I am not sure if it's a dead coincidence or not. Not some sort of conspiracy like this virus was invented by the left wing.

I myself knew you were not making a conspiracy theory, and I thought that you were alluding to the fact that GOP pols make it a culture war thing, and flout the rules about masks and social distancing more than do Dem pols. Ergo those politicians suffer the consequence. Which, unlike any Covid conspiracy theory Ive ever seen, is actually kinda plausible.

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03 Oct 2020, 7:30 am

There's some confusion about Trump's condition being described as "fatigue". It's being kept under wraps like a dying north korean dictator.

So does anyone know the laws about how the health of a president impacts whether they are allowed contest an election from their hospital bed?

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03 Oct 2020, 7:34 am

I don’t feel he’s in serious condition now...but in 5-7 days, we’ll know better.

I’m lucky my COVID19 didn’t progress to pneumonia....it stayed in the “flu-type” stage.

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03 Oct 2020, 7:43 am

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I don’t feel he’s in serious condition now...but in 5-7 days, we’ll know better.

I’m lucky my COVID19 didn’t progress to pneumonia....it stayed in the “flu-type” stage.

Will we? Do you think we'll get the full truth of his condition?

Why do you think he went to the hospital when the White House has everything a hospital has short of an ICU? Do you think he went now so video of him leaving under his own power was possible? And maybe, just maybe, a few days from now that video wouldn't have been possible?

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03 Oct 2020, 9:16 am

Laurie Garrett is a former senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Pulitzer Prize winning science writer and the Author of ‘The Coming Plague’
Only State-of-the-Art Medicine—and Luck—Can Save Trump Now

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Despite his 74 years and overweight frame, Trump has always tried to portray himself as vigorous, healthy, and even athletic. While depicting his thinner 77-year-old opponent Joe Biden as doddering, slow, and senile, Trump has tried to give the impression that he is Biden’s junior by far, more than the three chronological years that separate them.

He has similarly, and repeatedly, depicted the COVID-19 risk as somebody else’s problem.

Over the years, Trump and his staff have let slip tidbits of his real health status. He reportedly takes Propecia to fight hair loss, daily aspirin to prevent heart attacks, the cholesterol-lowering statin Crestor, and regular doses of the antibiotic tetracycline to deal with the colorful rosacea blotches that occasionally appear on his cheeks. According to the White House physician’s office, Trump is also taking supplements of zinc, vitamin D, melatonin to combat insomnia, and the histamine-blocker famotidine. None of this is particularly remarkable for an older, overweight American man—except that Trump goes to great lengths to not be labeled as such.

More worrying, from the point of view of Trump’s role as commander in chief, is increasing evidence that SARS-CoV-2 can infect the brain and cause cognitive dysfunctions, including hallucinations, severe headaches, dizziness, and impaired judgment. The list of neurological symptoms connected with COVID-19 is very long, including confusion, delirium, senility, and permanent brain damage. These, and other brain-associated symptoms, may persist for months.

Given his alleged cholesterol issues and the possibility that slurred speech and walking/balance issues are related to an underlying heart condition, Trump’s physicians should pay close attention to his cardiac performance.

There is increasing evidence that SARS-CoV-2 directly attacks and destroys heart muscle cells and causes longer-term heart problems and blood clotting throughout the body, even in people who had apparently asymptomatic infections.

Another controversial treatment, the Ebola drug remdesivir, may help stave off severe outcomes—but like plasma therapy, its benefits are greatest if taken immediately.

Given the great lengths Trump has gone to appear younger than his true 74 years and hide his medical history from public scrutiny, it is difficult to predict how his body will manage the virus.

At a minimum, both for his personal health and the safety of others, Trump can no longer hold mass campaign rallies. The scheduled Oct. 15 debate against Biden, planned for Miami, should be canceled. The Oct. 22 Nashville debate may also need to be reconsidered, possibly moved to a virtual format. Vice President Mike Pence’s schedule should be reassessed, keeping him close to the White House, where, should the president’s condition worsen significantly, he may be called on to assume Oval Office duties.

It’s worth noting that in addition to the President and First Lady, four people who attended the small, mostly mask-free September 26 ceremony in the White House Rose Garden have tested positive. All were seated in the front three rows at the gathering, during which Judge Amy Coney Barrett was formally nominated to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.

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03 Oct 2020, 10:24 am

My take on this is that he will try to spin it in someway to benefit himself if he gets better. It will be all about him and not how people worked hard to keep him alive. This is a no win for America. What I hate about this is that he has been so anti-science (and anti-medicine/anti-doctors), yet will need it to survive. He will not change his stance when he gets out, even though it was science that potentially will keep him alive.

To be honest, he should be given an opportunity to test out his medicinal cures for this virus on himself. If he does not want to do so, then he needs to explain why he chose not to do so. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. He owes the people of America at least once to be honest in this regard.

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03 Oct 2020, 10:35 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I’m lucky my COVID19 didn’t progress to pneumonia....it stayed in the “flu-type” stage.

Goodness Kraftie! I somehow missed that you had covid - so glad you have recovered! I don’t know if you’re an essential worker but you are definitely an essential member of WP!
Thanks also for your support :heart:

This is turning out to be a great week!
Breaking out more party supplies!

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03 Oct 2020, 10:44 am

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Johnson did eventually become too sick to work and Dominic Raab (in his role as First Secretary of State) had to temporarily take over Johnson’s duties.

Bolsonaro in Brazil tested positive but was asymptomatic. Same for Anez, the interim president of Bolivia.

The Prime Ministers of Russia and Guinea-Bissau have both tested positive, but operate in semi-presidential systems. I won’t pretend to know much about the Guinea-Bissau but all the power in Russia is with Putin.

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03 Oct 2020, 11:07 am

So, here is the list - so far - of positive cases* in the White House orbit in the last week.

Donald Trump, POTUS
Melania Trump, FLOTUS
Ronna McDaniel, RNC Chairwoman
Bill Stepien, Trump Campaign manager
Mike Lee, R-Senator
Thom Tillis, R-Senator
Ron Johnson, R-Senator
Hope Hicks, White House advisor
Kellyanne Conway, former White House advisor
John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University
Chris Christie, former governor (Just in!)
+ 3 reporters and a White House staff member

And here is where Trump has been in the last week: DC, New Jersey, Ohio (Cleveland), Minnesota (Duluth and Minneapolis), Virginia (Sterling - his golf club), Pennsylvania (Middleton).

Oh, and on 25 September, he was in Florida, Georgia and Virginia.

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03 Oct 2020, 11:55 am

That’s sweet, Beady :heart:

My case was exceedingly mild. My flu two years ago was worse. Had some weird symptoms, though.....like “wet pins and needles”—sweats and tingles. No loss of any senses. Very little fever, some fatigue.

Nope. I’m a clerical worker—didn’t have much to do for months. Lucky I wasn’t furloughed (from my main job)

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