Socialist Francois Hollande wins French presidency

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06 May 2012, 2:04 pm

Socialist Francois Hollande has been elected as France's new president.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17975660

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06 May 2012, 5:46 pm

Better than Sarkozy, honestly. I watched a montage of Hollande saying "Moi, président de la Republique" very often during the debate.
Unusually for a socialist candidate, he seemed to have more natural authority and charisma than Sarkozy.

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06 May 2012, 7:42 pm

HisDivineMajesty wrote:

I agree with you their.

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07 May 2012, 1:17 pm

From what I have see with my limited knowledge of European Politics, it seems that most of mainland Western Europe is a corrupt nightmare, hopefully this election will change things.

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07 May 2012, 1:33 pm

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From what I have see with my limited knowledge of European Politics, it seems that most of mainland Western Europe is a corrupt nightmare, hopefully this election will change things.

Western Europe so to speak has always been that way.

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07 May 2012, 5:34 pm

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07 May 2012, 5:41 pm

John_Browning wrote:

You cannot possibly be a real person. You're like a cyborg created to justify people disliking Americans.

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07 May 2012, 7:01 pm

Declension wrote:

You cannot possibly be a real person. You're like a cyborg created to justify people disliking Americans.

ikr?

Maybe dislike was too light a word though....

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08 May 2012, 2:00 pm

Declension wrote:

You cannot possibly be a real person. You're like a cyborg created to justify people disliking Americans.

Real enough, I'm sure. Just ignorant. Like "freedom fries" and "liberty toast". Another iteration of the running joke among the American right that went stale 10 years ago.

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08 May 2012, 2:09 pm

I like the poster, though. I live only a few hours away from France, I've visited it several times, and I can appreciate the humour. The French are very nationalist, and so proud of their language they usually only speak French, but they're equally eager to surrender the moment a German tourist enters Alsace-Lorraine. Mainland Europe has always been corrupt in subtle ways, but no more so than North America or the developed parts of Asia.

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08 May 2012, 3:59 pm

Well, if the rejection of Sarkozy's austerity policies actually gets the French economy moving again, maybe we can follow their example, and skip the painful lesson we'd learn by falling for the Ryan Plan.

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08 May 2012, 4:02 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

You're forgetting that these austerity plans have been rejected or at the very least snubbed by sizeable amounts of the Finnish, French, and Greek electorates. And this is just thus far.

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08 May 2012, 5:22 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:

You're forgetting that these austerity plans have been rejected or at the very least snubbed by sizeable amounts of the Finnish, French, and Greek electorates. And this is just thus far.

Oh, no, I haven't forgotten. I just think that austerity plans can be draconian to people in need, and would certainly be with the Ryan Plan.

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08 May 2012, 6:32 pm

Tequila wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

You're forgetting that these austerity plans have been rejected or at the very least snubbed by sizeable amounts of the Finnish, French, and Greek electorates. And this is just thus far.

But don't forget that in many countries - Ireland & the Baltic countries for example - voters just suffered austerity silently. I suspect that's what will happen in the U.S. under President Romney & a Republican-controlled Congress. I haven't kept a tally, but it appears that the economic crisis has caused more left-leaning governments to be turned out of power in Europe than right-leaning governments. Personally, I'm happy that the France has thrown out Sarkozy, but a 51-49% tally amid 10% unemployment hardly seems like a ringing endorsement of the center-left programme. Perhaps the Socialists will do well in the legislative elections next month, but for now I still have to assume that there are more right-leaning than left-leaning voters in France. The crisis surely has been hard on incumbents across the board, with voters gravitating toward both poles, but political polarization always seems to redound to the benefit of the right. In the short term, it looks more like political paralysis than any significant change of course is what's in store.

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09 May 2012, 7:56 am

What can we expect from the French?

I'm just waiting for the Euro to collapse. I just wonder if the dollar will collapse first.

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09 May 2012, 9:05 am

CSBurks wrote:

What can we expect from the French?

I'm just waiting for the Euro to collapse. I just wonder if the dollar will collapse first.

The collapse of the Euro is the salvation of the dollar.

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