FBI's new rape definition ensnares TSA'ers as serial rapists

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This is a half a year old piece of news, but it must not pass unnoticed.... especially since the TSA "pat-downs" and nude scans are on their way to get extended for trains and other forms of mass transit, too, as well as cruise ships (>link<) (meaning, depending on where you want to move, you soon can't even permanently leave the U.S., anymore, without being violated). I'm sure it will pass mostly unnoticed, anyway, though, considering the clear, overwhelming apathy of the great majority of the American people. One shouldn't need to have an organization like the FBI tell you it is wrong, to begin with... that thought should come naturally, should it not? Any pervert who, on the street, would do what the TSA does, would get the cops called on them, instantly. Yet, when these TSA scum workers do it (on mission of the even scummier government, though, of course), it is acceptable to the majority of Americans. Collective Stockholm syndrome...?

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couldnt agree more. I have not flown since they started this and besides I have found even though car rides are much more expensive on long distance trips, they are alot more fun than flying anyway.

Groups are coming out about this, but the media is not talking about it. ACLU has been working on putting a case together for a lawsuit.
Most americans dont know this because they never lived in a communist country, but we are in the beginning stages of communism because communism countries are basically hyper-surveillance societies.

Orwell was a prophet

Haha TSA just got pwned by their buddies in the FBI. Load mag, release safety, rack chamber, point at foot, pull trigger.

I don't fly on airlines anymore.

How often does TSA screening involve penetration of the vagina or anus? I'm Australian, but have flown to and within America quite recently I don't recall even being touched. The screening was a little more stringent than we have in Aus, but no physical contact.

All because we let a couple airplanes fly into some buildings.

They are actually penetrating now? I wouldn't even be able to stand a patdown. That is one of the two main reasons that I'll never fly again. If I were to attempt to fly and they wanted to do that to me I'd have to refuse.

That sucks that they want to do that to trains too. What about Greyhound buses? I guess I'm never traveling again.

I don't think they do actual cavity searches. Also, you are free to walk away at any time and not fly if the pat downs bother you. Pat downs aren't rape by a long shot.

The pat downs and scans wouldn't bother me at all, what would bother me about flying is that the plane is up in the sky. I am afraid of the actual flying itself, not some security measures. I would be much more damaged by the plane crashing than I would be by having someone pat me down.

When you go to visit someone in prison you have to be patted down. Is that evil as well? It's just as much a choice to fly as it is to visit someone in prison. In fact, the pat downs at the prison are probably more embarrassing than the ones at the airport because I have to go into a room with a lady guard and not only do I get patted down but I have to lift up my shirt and shake my bra out in case I'm smuggling something in my bra.

I also really doubt the people doing the pat downs, either at the airport or at the prison, are getting off on them in any way.

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The TSA doesn't make us safer, it is only there to get us use to being treated like cattle.

The last time I went to visit my brother in law, I mentioned to the girl who was searching me "You must hate this" and she laughed and said "You have no idea how much I hate this, but you wouldn't believe some of the things people try to sneak in here and some of the places they put them" and we both laughed about that and then we talked about how stupid people ruin things for the rest of us.

Instead of getting mad at the TSA why aren't some of you putting the blame where it belongs, on the people who try to blow up the airplanes?

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I would say that there are three relevant issues:

1) To what extent are TSA searches invasive? While pat downs certainly involve physical touching, I am not persuaded that they properly involve any penetration of the relevant parts of the body.

2) Consent authorizes behaviour. Every person is free to refuse to submit themselves to search, provided that the person is willing to forego their contractual entitlement to fly. When you buy a ticket from an airline, you buy it subject to all of the airline's "conditions of carriage," one of which is that you will submit yourself to pre-boarding security screening. If you don't like the conditions of carriage, then you can fly privately or drive.

3) TSA agents are undertaking an activity that is authorized by statute--and one statute cannot criminalize behaviour that is authorized by a different statute. Now, if TSA agents are exceeding their authority (by, for example, conducting an unauthorized cavity search), then the issue of unreasonable search may arise. But so long as the searches are voluntary and non-invasive, I see no basis for the reasoning containined in the article.