Madman Dorner Believed Dead!! !

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Fugitive ex-cop believed dead, as cabin stronghold goes up in flames

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Waste of a good cabin.

He's still a folk hero. Songs will be written about him and movies produced about him and they will be sympathetic. Sympathetic! He made the LAPD look like a bunch of frightened rabbits. That's because they are!

he isn't mentally ill. he's homicidally angry. i hate it when folks conflate mental illness with criminality.

Frightened rabbits run from threats and hide in the woods.


It takes mentally well people to overcome their anger after a setback and make something of their lives.

American society promotes mental illness, scientific research supports this. This person is reacting to those conscious decisions to create mental illness as they claim that doing this will cause a more efficient economic result.

You lie! YOU LIE!! !

Evidence, please?


Evidence, please?

The Right believes that pressuring people with massive stress with a lot of injustice, a lot of insecurity, that this will force people to strive furiously ahead and create economic advancement. This formula for economic advancement is very bad for people's mental health. Studies show that more unequal societies have more mental illness. The Right believes that inequality forces things forward. They believe that a lot of poverty and downtrodden people forces people into action, is an efffective means of discipline. Otherwise, they argue, people will be content and lazy and things will stall. These ideas prevail right now in the USA. It's a system designed to stress people to the maximum because they think it will cause optimal economic results. They think drugs can help take care of some of the "collatoral damage" of this increasing pushing of people.

^ Third-rate conspiricism.

Conspiracism? Haven't you heard the expression made of the Communist bloc "We pretend to work, we pretend to be paid". That's the real horror story as far as the Right's concerned. With guaranteed jobs, people can just stand around and do nothing, there's no sting of the whip to get them moving. These days we are told we need more discipline. We need a high unemployment rate (the NAIRU theory that justifies this) and lots of "workplace flexibility" to keep workers on their toes, and more massive inequality to make people want to kill if necessary to one day get a decent job while the rest are left behind in the muck... to make people cut each other's throats... dog eat dog... and in the struggle, build a better society and a better person. This is not even controversial.

It would be nice if you stop looking at the world in absolute terms Fnord, but I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Dorner had a middle class upbringing and a university graduate in politics/psychology and played college football in Utah. He also spent 11 years in the Navy reserves. He was also described as highly honest after finding $2000 in a satchel belonging to a Korean church which he returned to the police who were amazed he didn't keep it.

Despite a normal upbringing His troubles started in school where he was the only african-american in his class and was forced to physically fight against bullies who taunted him racially for many years. He may also have had PTSD from his time in the navy. After joining the LAPD Dorner witnessed a police beating in 2008 where he testified that a fellow officer (Teresa Evans) had assaulted a suspect in the chest and face. The events that transpired appeared to indicate the LAPD not only rejected Dorner's testimony but that he was also slapped with disciplinary proceeding and discharged from the police.

My guess is Dorner felt he was the victim of injustice and police corruption and this had been brewing inside of him for 5 years. He decided (in a Sylvester Stallone kind of way) to take vengeance on the LAPD. Unfortunately his sense of justice became distorted and his twisted mental state of mind made him choose to attack and kill a innocent party related to the object of his hatred in order to exact revenge.

What transipred is a set of tragic circumstances that really started for Dorner in his childhood. He certainly is no hero but he is perhaps a victim of a society where racism, police corruption and lack of mental health services led to this tragedy taking place. While nobody is expected to mourn Chris Dorner (we should rightly be sympathetic to his victims) he is himself a victim of mental illness.

I've been following this story too.

Unfortunately, reading this guys manifesto I found that what he wrote sounded--very plausible, credible even.

People who are emotionally impulsive like this guy was don't lie with such incredible attention to detail.

Reading it, I could empathize how he could feel cheated. I only seriously started questioning his sanity and began to wince when he started suggesting that he lost familial relationships because of a job. I then was just shocked and appauled that he'd go after the family members of those he felt wronged him. The fact that he has killed them--people totally unrelated to his cause, is mostly rooted in insanity.

Its rational to the point that he knew he was going to die in this process--but what's even more messed up is he went after unrelated people first.

I don't condone any of it, all around its a tragedy for all involved. Whats scary to me is not one but two incidents the LAPD shot at people without question because they drove around in vehicles that "sorta" looked like his. I bet people claiming this dude is a hero mostly state so because of the gross negligence and the ineptitude of the police department that caused these acts to transpire. Protect and serve does not come into effect if you're randomly firing at something hoping its a target.

Seventy one year old woman and a woman in her fourties? They downplayed that a little too quickly for my liking with "Not seriously injured." Could've easily been a kid in either vehicle shot--heck, all three could've been dead and they'd have as an organization (in my eyes) be guilty of the same impulsive crimes as Chris Dorner.

I do hope the LAPD stick to their word and reinvestigate the allegatons, easily sounds like the sorta issue these cops would try to step around and avoid.

There was no way the LAPD was going to let him out alive.

Same a Raul Moat in the UK.

Two wrongs dont make a right and all that.

Dorner was not crazy. He was evil.

ruveyn

The curious thing of it all is that it shows, quite publicly, that when joe schmo gets murdered by a serial killer that announces himself and taunts the media his investigation is treated with the same low priority as everyone else.

Yet... one guy goes after cops and suddenly the resources put into hunting him down dwarf those put to find the murderers of hundreds of other citizens.

Dorner evil? No, the police and the fascist state behind it are. Dorner has exposed this and the media also comes out looking very bad. Its servility is a sight to behold.

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