KKK Rally At Gettysburg Canceled Due to Government Shutdown
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/0 ... ostpopular - Possibly the only good thing to come out of the government shutdown?
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Don't worry, those cretins will find somewhere else in the area to spread their vitriol. There are more than enough crackers in this area that will welcome them with open arms. Like I said on a different thread, they don't call Pennsylvania the Alabama of the North for nothing!
Given the state of Louisiana voted an ex KKK grand wizard as senator and the state of Arizona boycotts the Martin Luther King Day and the people of Indian Wells California can throw racist slurs at a champion US tennis player then there seems to be plenty of good folk in regional USA of the same ilk as Alabama, Pennsylvania and Mississippi.
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The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
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The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Since street gangs are even more violent than the Klan (due if nothing else to their size), I don't think violence is the issue. I haven't seen, for instance, where the Bloods, Crips, MS 13, or any of the other gangs elicit the same hatreds as the Klan. It is their ideology, and that ideology is a mirror image of what Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP, and the rest preach.
Last time I checked, The Klan has the same rights under the First Amendment as any other congregation of individuals with similar opinions.
Defend to the death, and all that...
However, I have so far found no evidence that they have been selectively targeted during the government shutdown, so... meh...
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The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Since street gangs are even more violent than the Klan (due if nothing else to their size), I don't think violence is the issue. I haven't seen, for instance, where the Bloods, Crips, MS 13, or any of the other gangs elicit the same hatreds as the Klan. It is their ideology, and that ideology is a mirror image of what Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP, and the rest preach.
I'm pretty certain street gangs are nothing more than petty criminals, without any political motivation.
Incidentally, say what you will about Sharpton and Jackson as they've let their mouths run faster than their brains, but the NAACP has been an outstanding movement for change for the better.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
That is funny,but I also wonder why Gettysburg, unless they were trying to vacation and demonstrate at the same time.Now I have a weird visual of a bunch of Kluxers in a tour bus,all sheated up.Wonder what they use to get " whiter whites" when they do laundry ![]()
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The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Since street gangs are even more violent than the Klan (due if nothing else to their size), I don't think violence is the issue. I haven't seen, for instance, where the Bloods, Crips, MS 13, or any of the other gangs elicit the same hatreds as the Klan. It is their ideology, and that ideology is a mirror image of what Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP, and the rest preach.
I'm pretty certain street gangs are nothing more than petty criminals, without any political motivation.
Incidentally, say what you will about Sharpton and Jackson as they've let their mouths run faster than their brains, but the NAACP has been an outstanding movement for change for the better.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Petty crime is only one aspect of street gangs. Like the Klan, they are based upon racial and ethnic affiliation. For example, I couldn't join the Crips any more than one of them could join the Klan. As far as violence, I'm not sure if the victims of any of them would be impressed knowing they were victims of apolitical, versus political, violence. Dead is dead, and hurt is hurt.
As far as the NAACP goes, their mission is black chauvinism whereas the Klan's mission is white chauvinism.
Tell me, would you feel different about the Klan if there was absolutely no history of violence?
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The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Since street gangs are even more violent than the Klan (due if nothing else to their size), I don't think violence is the issue. I haven't seen, for instance, where the Bloods, Crips, MS 13, or any of the other gangs elicit the same hatreds as the Klan. It is their ideology, and that ideology is a mirror image of what Jackson, Sharpton, the NAACP, and the rest preach.
I'm pretty certain street gangs are nothing more than petty criminals, without any political motivation.
Incidentally, say what you will about Sharpton and Jackson as they've let their mouths run faster than their brains, but the NAACP has been an outstanding movement for change for the better.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Petty crime is only one aspect of street gangs. Like the Klan, they are based upon racial and ethnic affiliation. For example, I couldn't join the Crips any more than one of them could join the Klan. As far as violence, I'm not sure if the victims of any of them would be impressed knowing they were victims of apolitical, versus political, violence. Dead is dead, and hurt is hurt.
As far as the NAACP goes, their mission is black chauvinism whereas the Klan's mission is white chauvinism.
Tell me, would you feel different about the Klan if there was absolutely no history of violence?
Of course street gangs are based on ethnic affiliation - and that is purely racism.
But other than race, I fail to see any connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. And there is a huge difference between the NAACP and the KKK, as the former is a civil rights organization that had fought with peaceful means to include black Americans in the political system, and to gain for them equal social standing with whites. The KKK, on the other hand, is a racist terrorist organization bent on white supremacy.
And in answer to your question, I would definitely see the Klan in a different light if they had not been guilty of violence. I'd see them as a bunch of goofy inbreds wearing Halloween costumes. But they have demonstrated a willingness to commit violent crimes, and that separates them from civil rights organizations. I have yet to hear the kind of racist language coming out of the mouths of the NAACP like I do out of the mouths of the KKK.
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Of course street gangs are based on ethnic affiliation - and that is purely racism.
But other than race, I fail to see any connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. And there is a huge difference between the NAACP and the KKK, as the former is a civil rights organization that had fought with peaceful means to include black Americans in the political system, and to gain for them equal social standing with whites. The KKK, on the other hand, is a racist terrorist organization bent on white supremacy.
And in answer to your question, I would definitely see the Klan in a different light if they had not been guilty of violence. I'd see them as a bunch of goofy inbreds wearing Halloween costumes. But they have demonstrated a willingness to commit violent crimes, and that separates them from civil rights organizations. I have yet to hear the kind of racist language coming out of the mouths of the NAACP like I do out of the mouths of the KKK.
Bill, first let me say that you are one of the nicest and most educated liberals I have dealt with in a while, and it is appreciated.
There is no connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. The connection is between the NAACP and the KKK. Though the NAACP has always used legal, nonviolent methods (as far as I know anyway), their ultimate goals are the mirror image of the Klans; i.e., both wish to advance their respective groups.
As far as "racist language" goes, blacks use plenty of it against whites. I'm not going to print those things, but if you need a link, I can provide one for you.
Regarding non-violent Klan types, I have one right here who is nonviolent as they come. But he was fired from National Review for alleged racism over the column below. The reason I am providing this link is so that you can see for yourself that his rhetoric in not violent, but well-presented. Though I'm not a big fan of Derbyshire's, he's hardly the violent "racist" Klansman of stereotype. How is he different from the NAACP?
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_non ... z1rJFc7Sbq
