researchers discover some people are "beat-deaf"

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12 Nov 2014, 10:02 pm

(clicky)researchers discover that some people are "beat-deaf" or impervious to external rhythmic stimuli

so it is not a matter of lacking the moves, but instead of lacking the brain parts. I wonder if there is link to being tone-deaf or amusical also. the one truly tone-deaf individual I read about was also "beat-deaf."

is there anybody here on WP who believes they are "beat-deaf" or "tone-deaf"?

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12 Nov 2014, 10:06 pm

I can't imagine that existence... though perhaps my rythmic sense was nurture rather than nature. Piano lessons were compulsory in my childhood... I am a stickler for proper syncopation...

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12 Nov 2014, 10:10 pm

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I can't imagine that existence... though perhaps my rythmic sense was nurture rather than nature. Piano lessons were compulsory in my childhood... I am a stickler for proper syncopation...

that means your brain is akin to a puter with a co-processor that helps out [speeds-up and quality-checks] with specialized functions. those without such extra brain parts have to make do with an approximation that is often relatively clumsy. some people cannot syncopate no matter what. interesting story about how fred Astaire had to be taught to syncopate and he did it but with great difficulty/tremendous effort, in singing the song "they can't take that away from me" ["...the way you wear yourHAT" as opposed to "the way you wear--- your--- hat"].

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12 Nov 2014, 10:58 pm

my sister and aspie nephew are tone and beat-deaf, as was my aspie dad.

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12 Nov 2014, 11:10 pm

cathylynn wrote:

my sister and aspie nephew are tone and beat-deaf, as was my aspie dad.

interesting how genes and heredity work- would you say your sister and aspie nephew to take after the opposite side of your family as yourself? like which of your ancestors had musical talent?

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12 Nov 2014, 11:22 pm

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cathylynn wrote:

my sister and aspie nephew are tone and beat-deaf, as was my aspie dad.

interesting how genes and heredity work- would you say your sister and aspie nephew to take after the opposite side of your family as yourself? like which of your ancestors had musical talent?

my mom, and two other sisters are innately musical. mom likes opera and peter, paul, and mary. d. likes rock. j. likes KISS. i like classical and easy listening and paul simon. got my liking of folk from mom.

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12 Nov 2014, 11:25 pm

cathylynn wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

my sister and aspie nephew are tone and beat-deaf, as was my aspie dad.

interesting how genes and heredity work- would you say your sister and aspie nephew to take after the opposite side of your family as yourself? like which of your ancestors had musical talent?

so what talents does the father's side of the family have? that would be illustrative. paul simon definitely has the musical pair of ears and poetic heart. what do you think of "el condor pasa?"

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12 Nov 2014, 11:38 pm

auntblabby wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

my sister and aspie nephew are tone and beat-deaf, as was my aspie dad.

interesting how genes and heredity work- would you say your sister and aspie nephew to take after the opposite side of your family as yourself? like which of your ancestors had musical talent?

so what talents does the father's side of the family have? that would be illustrative. paul simon definitely has the musical pair of ears and poetic heart. what do you think of "el condor pasa?"

dad was bright (mom was even brighter, though), honest, generous, and hard-working. he could fix cars and built a dormer on our attic.

el condor pasa is nice. i prefer kathy's song, though.

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12 Nov 2014, 11:40 pm

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dad was bright (mom was even brighter, though), honest, generous, and hard-working. he could fix cars and built a dormer on our attic. el condor pasa is nice. i prefer kathy's song, though.

will have to research Kathy's song. so your father had the mechanical/kinesiologic talents, that is good.

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13 Nov 2014, 12:54 am

Of the fine arts, music has always been my favorite and I have no problems catching a rhythm or hearing tones to form a melody (though I can't tell what pitch/notes the tones are, neither relatively nor absolutely). I've composed and arranged music in the past.

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13 Nov 2014, 12:55 am

beneficii wrote:

Of the fine arts, music has always been my favorite and I have no problems catching a rhythm or hearing tones to form a melody (though I can't tell what pitch/notes the tones are, neither relatively or absolutely). I've composed and arranged music in the past.

absent pitch discernment, how does one compose/arrange music?

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13 Nov 2014, 12:57 am

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beneficii wrote:

absent pitch discernment, how does one compose/arrange music?

Approximation of what I'm hearing in my head and trial and error in composition. Access to the original score in arrangement.

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13 Nov 2014, 1:00 am

beneficii wrote:

auntblabby wrote:

beneficii wrote:

absent pitch discernment, how does one compose/arrange music?

Approximation of what I'm hearing in my head and trial and error in composition. Access to the original score in arrangement.

oh yea, I shoulda thought of that. :oops: