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16 Jan 2015, 1:41 pm

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"This is the latest in a series of warm years, in a series of warm decades," said Gavin Schmidt, director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies. "While the ranking of individual years can be affected by chaotic weather patterns, the long-term trends are attributable to drivers of climate change that right now are dominated by human emissions of greenhouse gases."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/2014-proves ... te-change/


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17 Jan 2015, 4:03 pm

No problem. According to the Muslims God is great. He'll fix up global warming. If that doesn't work, we have Jesus and Budha as back up.



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17 Jan 2015, 11:10 pm

progaspie wrote:
No problem. According to the Muslims God is great. He'll fix up global warming. If that doesn't work, we have Jesus and Budha as back up.

Lets not forget Tony Abbott's solution for global warming...



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18 Jan 2015, 2:45 am

The average surface temperature is derived from a tiny non-representative layer. It doesn't tell us much about anything. They could as well be detecting statistical noise due to the urban heat effect. The globe has been cooling since 1998 according to more reliable satellite data.



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18 Jan 2015, 3:41 am

I'm hoping this summer isn't too warm. I can't handle the hot weather anymore, I would prefer it if there were only 3 seasons instead of four.



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20 Jan 2015, 12:16 pm

Humanaut wrote:
The average surface temperature is derived from a tiny non-representative layer. It doesn't tell us much about anything. They could as well be detecting statistical noise due to the urban heat effect. The globe has been cooling since 1998 according to more reliable satellite data.

So that's the denial argument... 1998 count but not 2014 because "satellite data"... Even though 2014 most likelly alos use satellite data. The warming is more intense near the poles where there is no or little urban heat effect by the way. The long term trend is rather clear too... http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/gwp/temp/ann_wld.html

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21 Jan 2015, 6:16 am

Tollorin wrote:
The warming is more intense near the poles where there is no or little urban heat effect by the way.

Greenland and the polar ice caps are currently accumulating lots of ice. The Antarctic ice sheet recently set a new record.

The surface temperature is just a tiny part of a complex system. It's largely irrelevant due to measurement difficulties like the aforementioned urban effect, and "the warmest year on record" comes with several disclaimers. 38% certainty is one of them, in addition to an error margin larger than the measured signal. Using this data as an argument in support of political measures based on the now largely defunct AGW-hypothesis is not even wrong.