4 Men Receive France's Legion of Honor Medal!

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24 Aug 2015, 12:21 pm

They did exactly what I recommended we all do! They tackled a man with weapons about to unleash his fury on an unsuspecting crowd. In this case, it was an Islamic jihadist in France but the main thing is, they took my advice and not only were they relieved of suffering a horrendous fate at the hands of a terrorist, they were rewarded by the French Nation for their courage.

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French President Francois Hollande on Monday pinned the three Americans and a British man with the Legion of Honor medal. According to The Associated Press: Hollande said the men showed "that faced with terror, we have the power to resist. You also gave a lesson in courage, in will, and thus in hope."

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Three Americans who helped subdue an armed gunman on a high-speed train en route from the Netherlands to France, have recounted a bit of their experiences during a news conference held at the U.S. embassy in Paris.

Spencer Stone, speaking publicly for the first time since Friday's incident, said he was slashed with a box cutter several times by the assailant — identified as Ayoub El-Khazzani, a 26-year-old Moroccan with ties to Islamist radicals.

Stone told reporters that he'd just woken up from a deep sleep when he saw the gunman carrying an AK-47 through the train car.

"It looked like it was jammed and wasn't working," the airman first class in the U.S. Air Force said.

Once he'd wrestled the suspect to the floor, it "seemed like he kept pulling out weapons right and left," as Stone kept grabbing each one. Finally, he said, the man got to a box cutter and began slashing him.

Stone, who appeared at the news conference with his arm in a sling and an injury to his right eye, had extensive surgery on his thumb, which was badly cut. He thanked the French doctors and nurses for their care and attention.

Stone said he acted "to survive and for my friends and everyone else on the train to make it."

The assailant "seemed like he was ready to fight to the end," he said. "So were we."

Stone, along with friends and traveling companions U.S. Army National Guardsman Alek Skarlatos and Anthony Sadler, a student at Sacramento State University, were joined by a British man living in France, Chris Norman, in taking down the assailant.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... ench-train


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24 Aug 2015, 12:31 pm

Darn straight! We all bear some responsibility for what goes on around us. Imagine how much better our world would be if we all asked ourselves " What can I do? " instead of asking " What is the government going to do? ".


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24 Aug 2015, 12:33 pm

glebel wrote:
Darn straight! We all bear some responsibility for what goes on around us. Imagine how much better our world would be if we all asked ourselves " What can I do? " instead of asking " What is the government going to do? ".


Exactly!! ! How much can you as a private citizen invest in your community instead of expecting the government to do it!



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24 Aug 2015, 1:42 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
glebel wrote:
Darn straight! We all bear some responsibility for what goes on around us. Imagine how much better our world would be if we all asked ourselves " What can I do? " instead of asking " What is the government going to do? ".


Exactly!! ! How much can you as a private citizen invest in your community instead of expecting the government to do it!

Everything that it is possible for me to do.


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24 Aug 2015, 2:55 pm

Well deserved.



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24 Aug 2015, 8:40 pm

Good for them, well done!

I'm not sure what I would do in such a situation, but I guarantee that if I chose to tackle the guy, the results would not be as successful as it was for these guys. But hey, go out fighting.



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24 Aug 2015, 9:59 pm

androbot01 wrote:
Good for them, well done!

I'm not sure what I would do in such a situation, but I guarantee that if I chose to tackle the guy, the results would not be as successful as it was for these guys. But hey, go out fighting.


If several people are working together, the results could be better than you think!



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24 Aug 2015, 10:07 pm

True. I guess you'd just have to hope others joined in.



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24 Aug 2015, 10:16 pm

androbot01 wrote:
True. I guess you'd just have to hope others joined in.

Non verbal communication would be necessary first but I hope people will coordinate more after hearing and reading about stories like this and develop these drills and strategies so strangers will know how to coordinate their movements without drawing attention to themselves. Grassroots strategies are the most effective because cops cannot always respond so quickly.



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24 Aug 2015, 10:29 pm

Just like fire drills, active shooter drills should be offered for free.

At least you remove that aspect of people freezing, which makes them easy targets. Running is good. If the situation calls for it, so is disarming the individual.

Plenty of potential massacres have been stopped by people fighting back. Within room distance, you can cover said length in a second, and if you have a couple of men, you can overpower a shooter (it's not like a blade, as you can control where the muzzle is pointed and/or interfere with its mode of action). Even if one gets hit, it's highly unlikely it'll be instantly fatal (brain and spine are the only ways for an instant drop).

Also, it's good to know how various firearms function so you can quickly make it safe or interfere with its operation so the person can't get shots off when you're struggling for the firearm.



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25 Aug 2015, 4:29 pm

Great guys all of them.They deserve respect.
Americans saving the French,who'd of thought it.LOL


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26 Aug 2015, 12:52 am

glebel wrote:
Darn straight! We all bear some responsibility for what goes on around us. Imagine how much better our world would be if we all asked ourselves " What can I do? " instead of asking " What is the government going to do? ".


Is that simillar to JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you, rather what you can do for your country" quote?


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