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07 Dec 2015, 8:28 am

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/legal-fight-21-syrian-refugees-arrive-texas-35617433

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Syrian refugees are scheduled to arrive in Texas on Monday after the state eased up in its legal fight against resettlement agencies and the federal government.

Twelve Syrians, including six children, are expected to arrive in Dallas and Houston on Monday, joining relatives already settled in Texas. Another nine refugees are scheduled to arrive in Houston Thursday.

State officials fought for weeks to stop them, saying Syrian refugees posed an unacceptable security risk after the deadly Nov. 13 Paris attacks.

But two days after suing one resettlement agency, the International Rescue Committee, and federal officials, the state on Friday withdrew its request for an order immediately stopping the refugees from entering Texas. The lawsuit remains pending, and a judge could hear arguments in the case this week.

Texas took in nearly 250 Syrians before the Paris attacks. Federal officials said in court filings that they plan to resettle as many as 250 Syrians in Texas during the current fiscal year.





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07 Dec 2015, 4:29 pm

We should send them all of our Syrian refugees. :D


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07 Dec 2015, 4:32 pm

The state of Texas and other states should determine who they let it in light of current events. The Federal government should not be imposing its will on the states. There is something called the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.



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08 Dec 2015, 4:23 am

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The state of Texas and other states should determine who they let it in light of current events. The Federal government should not be imposing its will on the states. There is something called the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.


And yet the federal government can and must tell the states what to do when the rights of people - citizens or not - are discriminated against.


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08 Dec 2015, 4:25 am

I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.


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08 Dec 2015, 4:33 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
The state of Texas and other states should determine who they let it in light of current events. The Federal government should not be imposing its will on the states. There is something called the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.


And yet the federal government can and must tell the states what to do when the rights of people - citizens or not - are discriminated against.



Then there is a thing called nullification and state rights. I believe in the concept of state rights. The states should not be forced into doing the will of the federal government. Its happen in the past and should be used when necessary. That is why the Founders placed as number ten as part of the first ten amendments of the Constitution. It expresses the principle of federalism, which strictly supports the entire plan of the original Constitution of the United States of America, by stating that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people. From 1781-1860, the states and Federal government functioned normally under the concept of the 10th amendment. But there was the underlying problem of slavery.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenther_movement



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08 Dec 2015, 4:52 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.



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08 Dec 2015, 5:36 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
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frenchmanflats wrote:
The state of Texas and other states should determine who they let it in light of current events. The Federal government should not be imposing its will on the states. There is something called the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.


And yet the federal government can and must tell the states what to do when the rights of people - citizens or not - are discriminated against.



Then there is a thing called nullification and state rights. I believe in the concept of state rights. The states should not be forced into doing the will of the federal government. Its happen in the past and should be used when necessary. That is why the Founders placed as number ten as part of the first ten amendments of the Constitution. It expresses the principle of federalism, which strictly supports the entire plan of the original Constitution of the United States of America, by stating that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people. From 1781-1860, the states and Federal government functioned normally under the concept of the 10th amendment. But there was the underlying problem of slavery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenther_movement


States rights were used as a rallying cry against expanding civil rights to African Americans, as it is today in the attempt to deny rights to LGBT Americans. When the states deny rights to citizens simply for who they are, that's when the federal government has to step in.


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08 Dec 2015, 5:39 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.


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08 Dec 2015, 5:51 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.



Its the right of the Texicans of what they want their state to be like. That is why they are called the Lone Star state. They have been independent since its founding



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08 Dec 2015, 6:06 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.



Its the right Texicans of what they want their state to be like. That is why they are called the Lone Star state. They have been independent since its founding


If that's the case, what's to stop them from reinstituting segregation? Or to make consenting adults engaging in homosexual sex criminals under the law? There are people like that in Texas - as anywhere else - who want their state to look like that again.


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08 Dec 2015, 6:07 am

One Palistani woman who entered America as the wife/fiancé of an American citizen proceeded, two years later, to arm herself and attack an employee Christmas party, with her American-born husband, killing fourteen people.

Subsequently, pictures of her have been shown, standing beside an ISIS leader, having been a follower/trainee of his/theirs.

One woman: fourteen non-political, unarmed, non-military people just eating lunch.

I think that many Americans are AFRAID, not prejudiced......if Tashfeen Malik's history was not adequately looked into before allowing her into the country, how can anyone seriously believe that a group of 250 will be!


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08 Dec 2015, 6:12 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.



Its the right Texicans of what they want their state to be like. That is why they are called the Lone Star state. They have been independent since its founding


If that's the case, what's to stop them from reinstituting segregation? Or to make consenting adults engaging in homosexual sex criminals under the law? There are people like that in Texas - as anywhere else - who want their state to look like that again.


I think that segregation will not come back because of numerous SCOTUS rulings. I think that nullification is good to a certain degree. A state should not be forced by the Federal Government if it feels it gone too far. 39 states do not want refugees in their states.That is a lot of states. If you want them so bad take them.



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08 Dec 2015, 6:28 am

Thomas Jefferson, among other distinguished Americans approved of nullification. His draft of the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798 first introduced the word “nullification” into American political life, and follow-up resolutions in 1799 employed Jefferson’s formulation that “nullification…is the rightful remedy” when the federal government reaches beyond its constitutional powers In the American system no government is sovereign. The peoples of the states are the sovereigns. It is they who apportion powers between themselves, their state governments, and the federal government. You are going to see more and more states go down this path the future.



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08 Dec 2015, 6:59 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.



Its the right Texicans of what they want their state to be like. That is why they are called the Lone Star state. They have been independent since its founding


If that's the case, what's to stop them from reinstituting segregation? Or to make consenting adults engaging in homosexual sex criminals under the law? There are people like that in Texas - as anywhere else - who want their state to look like that again.


I think that segregation will not come back because of numerous SCOTUS rulings. I think that nullification is good to a certain degree. A state should not be forced by the Federal Government if it feels it gone too far. 39 states do not want refugees in their states.That is a lot of states. If you want them so bad take them.


But states rights - as with any rights - were expected by the founders to be used responsibly, rather than exercised out of fear or hate. And that's just what Islamaphobia is.


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08 Dec 2015, 5:43 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
frenchmanflats wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I'm happy to report that Jay Inslee, the governor of my own state of Washington, has promised to welcome Syrian refugees.



Of course. He is a Democrat. He can take Texas share of refugees.


I would be proud for my state to welcome in these desperate people. And I'll add, history will remember Washington state much better than it will remember Texas on this matter, if the Texicans choose not to do the right thing.



Its the right Texicans of what they want their state to be like. That is why they are called the Lone Star state. They have been independent since its founding


If that's the case, what's to stop them from reinstituting segregation? Or to make consenting adults engaging in homosexual sex criminals under the law? There are people like that in Texas - as anywhere else - who want their state to look like that again.


I think that segregation will not come back because of numerous SCOTUS rulings. I think that nullification is good to a certain degree. A state should not be forced by the Federal Government if it feels it gone too far. 39 states do not want refugees in their states.That is a lot of states. If you want them so bad take them.


But states rights - as with any rights - were expected by the founders to be used responsibly, rather than exercised out of fear or hate. And that's just what Islamaphobia is.


I guess that you did not read my post but that is OK.James Madison gave us the blueprint for stopping federal overreach before the Constitution was even ratified. Madison acknowledged anti-federalist fears that the new general government would try to exercise undelegated powers. And he assured them that the power of the states could keep the tendency in check in Federalist 46.


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Should an unwarrantable measure of the federal government be unpopular in particular States, which would seldom fail to be the case, or even a warrantable measure be so, which may sometimes be the case, the means of opposition to it are powerful and at hand. The disquietude of the people; their repugnance and, perhaps, refusal to co-operate with the officers of the Union; the frowns of the executive magistracy of the State; the embarrassments created by legislative devices, which would often be added on such occasions, would oppose, in any State, difficulties not to be despised; would form, in a large State, very serious impediments; and where the sentiments of several adjoining States happened to be in unison, would present obstructions which the federal government would hardly be willing to encounter.



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