Returning IS Fighters
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How real is the threat of returning IS fighters?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-41679377
IS foreign fighters: 5,600 have returned home - report
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41734069
What should happen to IS fighters in Syria and Iraq?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41818290
What do you think should be done with returning citizens who have joined ISIS?
Personally, I think they should be barred from entry. They should be returned to or prevented from leaving wherever they attempted to serve ISIS. If local authorities in Syria and such want to execute them along with their own native born fighters, I don't feel America should intervene at all. Unfortunately, it's pretty darn hard to keep a US citizen out of "their own country." Even one who has served ISIS. The amount of proof needed to create the cases that would lead to all or even most of these individuals seeing the inside of a court, let alone jail cell...I just don't think we can do it. Not because the local police and Federal officers/agents are too busy or don't want to, but because of the burden of proof necessary for such cases.
A British guy I work with was one the loudest people I have ever heard to chorus "are they CRAZY, you cant let ISIS members back into the country!" And that guy happens to be named "Mohammed" ( he is a Brit, but he is Black African originally from a Muslim village in Sierre Leone). So Muslim background folks are as terrified of them as anyone else.
Many ISIS folks defect, and desert, and come back with their tails between their legs. Some may have done atrocities but many have not. But some returners probably don't even pretend to repentant. So some maybe return intent on terrorism, but others might just wanna be civilians. Countries like the US, or UK, could funnel returnees through somekind of camp (part therapy, part military, part police) to sort these folks out and their motives. Get intelligence from any and all of them. Help those who want to be deprogrammed from ISIS to do so (if they can proven somehow to be true defectors), and detain those that don't.
To change the subject slightly: I saw a vlog on U Tube of a young amateur guy doing a little "talk show" in which he interviewed another young guy who was in ISIS but got disillusioned and left. The video disappeared the next day, or I just cant find it. But it was rather amusing. I was expecting the guy who defected to say something like "I realized the cause was evil so I defected on moral grounds". But what he talked about were things like "they had a mean drill sergeant, who would yell at us, and say mean things to us....". He traveled across several continents to get to Syria to join an army (ISIS is an army) in order to fight a war. And when he gets there he is surprised that they have something like boot camp (like any army would have), and that boot camp has drill sergeants who act just like the American drill sergeants you see in movies about the U.S. Army, or the U.S. Marine Corps. What the heck was he expecting? Laughed my ass off at him.
