reasonably optimistic outcome for UK and EU over Brexit?

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For example, people talk about ‘hard’ Brexit or ‘soft’ Brexit as an alternative, rather like the soft opening of a new business.

I should say that I’m a Yank And I only know a little bit that I follow in the news.

Okay, how might Brexit work out actually pretty well?

I can see how you may feel left out in these threads. After all, there are people around here and out there that are either for or against WTO rules because a lot of individual countries have joined the E.U over generations of it being in power. People over the years, Tory Remainers coining the phrase, have exploited the definintion about Britain leaving the E.U. When I first heard this term, I knew someone in government started it, as they weren't sure about what it really meant for the country who voted to leave.
There are many outcomes, I believe positive, as employment rates etc are showing, because low paid jobs are being advertised more widely, without the equal intentions of only recruiting migrants through multiple choice agencies.
Most I know of, don't register anyone unless they've worked for at least five years straight. In other words, previously thought,we're better off without you. How would you feel if you as a citizen weren't given that right first?
So that's been one side of the debate, and the others are just about letting off steam that speaks about the terms you've used, only to infiltrate out into the wider aspect of politics. I think the No May Deal, was shunned because of the borders between Northern and Southern Island 'implications'. So far they've been the biggest threat to the economic system here because the north can't fight their own battles without money to put up some.
A soft border there, would mean relaxed trade and tariff within a customs union, and harder measures are if we leave the E.U without a deal. Either way, the answer to your question, is that Brexit implies either keeping old deals or trading with new business ones, which could mean a double spotted tariff on the deals no one sees coming.
It all has double sided implications, it depends on whether you are a business owner, needing funds from the E.U to survive, a school needing academy stakes from e.u beneficiaries, a science researcher needing diagnosis bursaries to complete research quicker, or run like America as an independent governing state, that could swing between its party or its people. The point is we were supposed to be this, but we were trampled over via special status blackmail, that we already had. Whatever a good thing going once was, has slowly turned to failure and dust.
An old warhorse needs time to remount, and the way this is going, we may be stuck between a show of empathy and a road to freedom. The media have had time to inflate this problem with renewed vigour, but if the world thinks we're soft old Britain without a shiny telescope then they're wrong. The new world was founded and it brought about peace and change, for civilisations, so whoever claimed or is claiming settlement here, is doing the right thing, but its time for this country to take back control of its lands and borders.

It's such a mess right now it's very hard to predict how it will go. various warring factions in parliament, both major parties split on what should happen etc.

I don't think I would be surprised at any direction it took now tbh. Hoping there is an angle to a solution that has not yet been proposed or investigated fully that is found and we can move forward.

New U.K Optimism.

Chaos closes ranks on all the facts and status quo before and after the referendum.



Earlier last night, we just had a few tweeks to the Brexit Amendment.



Each prominent M.P you see, has their say over questions to the amendment, whereby the ballot was drawn up and configured in this Eurosceptic M.P Remain/Brexit fashion.
After this, I think May and her plan B, Brexit backbenchers and M.Ps had better all sit around Mr P.G Tips and have another Irish brew and backstop along with a shot of Vodka and Boris biscuits!


No second Referendum. Sorry Remoaners.



There will be no permanent customs union and no extension to Article 50, so that means that this period of 'Uncertainty' within our realm will soon end. And capping that, soon secure a free trade deal with or without E.U blind pastures.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with the Brady amendment passed. The EU have already categorically stated they will not re open talks as the UK & EU already agreed a deal but, but maybe, just maybe this can be used to squeeze them. likely not though.

The Spelman amendment can be seen as fairly meaningless as they put no mechanism in there to implement it. When that is done it's meant to send a message and not much else.

so we go again on the 13th Feb, and that motion is amendable too so expect a bunch of new amendments to be placed.

The Valentines Eve massacre?

May must go.

There will be no Brexit; there are too many big business interests involved here. Neither the Tories nor Labour will let their paymasters down. Britain will not leave the Bankers' EU and, indeed, integration will be accelerated.

Transitional Recue Attempt at Renegotiations.

Setting out the terms and brackets for arrangements on the new transition period and leave negotiations.



Operation Fury[/i] https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... heresa-may

Boris is in the clanger again, this time for binning 70 odd pages of Brexit in a service station bin, here, The Daily Express depicts the contents.



BORIS Johnson has rubbished claims he chucked away 70 pages of Parliamentary Brexit documents in the bin of a petrol station.

The former Foreign Secretary purportedly wrote: “No deal does not mean crashing out, it can mean we are getting it right. We don’t know what the strategy is. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Fear isn’t scary.”
Another note supposedly said the People’s Vote is the “clear way forward on Brexit”.
It read: “It is the true way. The chief whip is alleged to have a plot to put it back to the people.”


Meanwhile.. a UKIP defence mechanism structured by a certain Mr Farage is coughing up just what the U.K doctors have ordered.


Mr Farage said it will be a problem if the public reaches the view that a no-deal is better than a backstop.
He also said it is a problem for all the MEPs who want to get elected again in a few years time.
He said: “No deal means no £39billion and your voters will be coughing up the money.
“No deal means the 100 million bottles of Prosecco we buy every year from Italy will become more expensive as will three quarters of a million German cars so why don’t we prepare sensibly for a no deal scenario?”
Michel Barnier, the European Commission’s chief Brexit negotiator, has insisted there is no time to find an alternative to the Irish border backstop.
He said Mrs May now realised the mistake made in agreeing to the backstop, adding: 'She signed up to something that no country - unless it had been defeated in war - would have signed up to.'
There was now an 'appreciation in Britain that unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have been talking down to and humiliating the Prime Minister of our nation, and we don't like it'.
He added: 'Many will say we are simply dealing with fanatics who are not prepared to be reasonable and make any sense of compromise.'

As for Mrs May, Is No Deal better than a Bad Deal scenario, if Britain doesn't win any trade deals on leaving the E.U, then we won't even pay them a Divorce Bill of up to 39 billion of tax payers money.





What happens next after MPs backed Plan B? 
Later this week: Theresa May is expected to return to Brussels to ask for changes to the Irish backstop, after MPs backed an amendment calling for 'alternative arrangements'. Her office has not yet confirmed when she will travel to meet EU leaders, who have already said they will not renegotiate the deal. 
February 13: If no new deal has been reached, Mrs May will address MPs again on this date and her Government will put a further motion before the House of Commons. MPs would then be able to vote on further amendments, potentially on February 14.
March 2: Brexit day. The European Union (Withdrawal) Act of 2018 fixed 11pm on March 29 as the time and date when Britain will leave the EU. If no agreement has been reached by then, the UK - in spite of the Commons vote against a cliff-edge Brexit last night - will leave without a deal.

Yvette Cooper should button up fair and square and focus on the Brady amendment that her own useless path is taking M.Ps. Down the road of no confidence.

Follow the path of your husband Mr Gangnam style man himself and quit resolving your cheese border alternative to taking NO Deal off the table.

Mr Gangnam himself.



Where are your Balls?