Extreme, Destructive Rain Is Being More Common in the US

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26 Jun 2023, 6:26 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/06/26/rain-flooding-us-risk-climate-change/

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26 Jun 2023, 7:06 pm

Give us back our rain!

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27 Jun 2023, 7:22 am

Joe90 wrote:

Give us back our rain!

Funny that you phrase it that way. Reminds me of a song popular in the mid Sixties.

https://youtu.be/nPtzK1fEaxQ

Marianne Faithful, the Searchers, Joan Baez, and others did versions of it.

A lovely song written in protest about a slightly different issue. That being open air testing of nuclear weapons. Both superpowers would set off nukes above ground...spreading radiation into the atmosphere...where it got into rain.

The superpowers both agreed to a treaty to end open air testing, and to only do it underground. So the song lost its political relevance and was soon forgotten. Maybe its time to revive the song.

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01 Jul 2023, 6:01 am

naturalplastic wrote:

Joe90 wrote:

Give us back our rain!

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01 Jul 2023, 6:03 am

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01 Jul 2023, 8:36 am

I live in that Balto-Wash region. Forgot how picturesque Elliot City is.

Will hafta visit it again sometime...before it get washed away...or bulldozed away.

Ironically Ellicot City was built on the "Fall Line" that runs down the Eastern seaboard...where the rivers fall...and can be harnessed most efficiently by water wheels. Many old cities and towns were built on the fall line. It was that falling water that powered the start of the Industrial Revolution. A little later Mr. Watt invented the steam engine and the burning of wood and then coal became the muscle of the present fossil fuel based phase of industrialization. Which also put carbon into the air which they say is now causing global warming.

The way were going...we may have to go back to water wheels.

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01 Jul 2023, 12:40 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

I believe the 'fall line' is the old sea level from the last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere. Just saying...

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01 Jul 2023, 1:17 pm

Archmage Arcane wrote:

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I believe the 'fall line' is the old sea level from the last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere. Just saying...

My understanding is that the land was softer East of that line so it eroded.

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01 Jul 2023, 5:34 pm

The steep rocky land of the uplands meets the leveler soil (and soft rock) of the plains... so has to change velocity...resutling in rapids and waterfalls.

Much of lowland Maryland, Virginia, and Delaware were underwater during the Miocene. Remains of whales, and megalodon sharks are found in the Calvert Cliffs. Dont know what the carbon level was back then.

In more recent times the sea level went the opposite direction. During the depths of the last Ice Age (18 thousand years ago- a heartbeat ago in geologic terms) the shoreline was almost at the edge of the Continental shelf a hundred miles out to sea now. The Potomac merged with the Susquehanna and the merged river cut a channel that still exists as an underwater canyon. Then the glaciers melted. Sea level went up. And what had been the river valley of the Susquehanna above where it had merged with the Potomac got flooded by the sea and is now the Chesapeake Bay.

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01 Jul 2023, 5:44 pm

Archmage Arcane wrote:

I believe the 'fall line' is the old sea level from the last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere. Just saying...

Mere belief proves nothing.

"A fall line (or fall zone) is the area where an upland region and a coastal plain meet and is typically prominent where rivers cross it, with resulting rapids or waterfalls. The uplands are relatively hard crystalline basement rock, and the coastal plain is softer sedimentary rock. A fall line often will recede upstream as the river cuts out the uphill dense material, forming "c"-shaped waterfalls and exposing bedrock shoals. Because of these features, riverboats typically cannot travel any farther inland without portaging, unless locks are built. The rapid change in elevation of the water and resulting energy release make the fall line a good location for water mills, grist mills, and sawmills. Seeking a head of navigation with a ready supply of water power, people have long made settlements where rivers cross a fall line." -- Wikipedia

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01 Jul 2023, 5:54 pm

So...we are getting super intense rain...while in Canada theyre having super big forest fires...

https://youtu.be/EbD7lfrsY2s

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03 Jul 2023, 11:35 am

And Canada. And probably everywhere. Or is it just the Northern Hemisphere? I'm not sure. In any event, Canada has had MASSIVE flash floods over the last few years that wiped out highways and put huge swaths of cities underwater.

Climate change is real. It's debatable what's causing it, but I tend to believe the scientists over conspiracy theorists - that human activity is accelerating it big time. We're all in for a bumpy ride...

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10 Jul 2023, 10:59 pm

I hope another Katrina-type storm completely obliterates Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, the crappy parts of Texas and Georgia, and South Carolina.

And maybe another tornado "Super Outbreak" can lay waste to Oklahoma.

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