trump says slavery wasn't bad

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... -exhibits/

https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-slavery

trump says to the Smithsonian museum needs to "stop focusing on how bad Slavery was.

Racist ****. He needs to die.

I can't see in your links where is trump quoted as saying slavery was not a bad thing.

He does remark on today's extreme focus on it, from which a long philosophical and psychological conversation could be had about why now, it's effects on people, how people are manipulated, the blatant false virtue so many simper to, and who wins and loses. Or you can use it as a jumping off point to embellish into something that comfortably fits a predetermined worldview.

And in before any lazy leaping to conclusions, I'm not "pro"-trump, but the constant mis portrayal of him actually runs in his favour in the eyes of the unbiased; if he's as bad as they say, why the need to lie?

He's trying to remove anything which shows American history in a negative light from the museums. "Good vibes only" maybe fine for social media, but at best, it's an immature and childish approach to curating the history shown by exhibitions. At worst, it's dictatorial propaganda, like something we in the west used to think in modern times only occurred in eastern dictatorships.

Dog whistle

Agreed 100%

It's called "dog whistling" a subtly aimed political message which is intended for MAGAs, but can only be understood by everyone when they read between the lines.

But, it's also a strategy Joseph Goebbals would be familiar with from the 1930s. A form of propaganda and a form of book burning. MAGA's plan in Project 2025 to make America great again involves brainwashing the masses Orwellian style. I am familiar with this because in Australia we have it too, it's called "history wars".

effectively the conservative white power structure wants to present a solely positive view of colonial history. Dilute and water down genocide, whites only policies and slavery (yes we also had slavery too) and present a history based on heroic colonist settlers and a romanticised view of heritage incorporating manifest destiny and justice (highlight all the "enlightened" things colonialism bought to non-European folk).

In order to achieve this Project 2025 has several goals:
1. Attack and remove non-white migrants using ICE
2. Discourage immigration from non-white countries
3. encourage white migration (refer to white south Africans)
4. Push the great replacement theory
5. Make DEI illegal
6. Ban books and research projects classified as DEI
7. Remove items in museums or public spaces classified as DEI
8. Spread propaganda that is white ethnonationalist under the guise of patriotism

Museum thing in this thread falls under both 6 and 7.
It's actually nothing new
https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learnin ... ls/2021/02

IMHO the guy is just a shameless psychopath and the people who voted for him are hardly any better.

The people who voted him probably weren't aware of the big picture, all they could see was his policy on immigration.

A bit like the UK with Reform, people are so worked up about immigration, that they're itching to vote for Farage in the next general election, not caring that he's only going to make the country fantastic for the rich and will screw everyone else. The common people don't know what's going to hit them and I'm scared.

I doubt it. People have the capacity to understand but are selectively ignorant. It always amazed my in school how my peers would feign ignorance in class and in front of their peers on topics relating to anything pertaining to Asian history, language or culture (I assume they wanted to display their lack of interest on those topics) but mysteriously pass or do well on quizzes (in those days the teacher would openly call out each student's mark in front of the class).

In case of Farage and trump, people knew what they stand for. In 2015 millions of republicans chose trump over Romney, Cruz and others because they liked (felt good) about what trump said about minorities. In Brexit it was the same, everyone knew Farage was a grifter who knew nothing about how much the UK relied on the European union for jobs and keeping cost of living down. they liked what Farage said about immigrants and keeping Britain white. they felt good/comfortable about/with the message.

when you hear Brits talk about about reasons for Brexit or Americans giving reasons for voting for trump I tend to not believe them. People hear racist stuff from Farage or trump and vote for them I tend to take them at face value.

Admittedly I did vote for Brexit because I was ignorant and just learnt politics from groupthink, but in the last year or so I've been talking to people who seem more level-headed about politics and have taught me a few useful things, which has shifted my views more to the center. So this time I'm not going to vote Farage, and if I'd known any better back in 2015 I wouldn't have voted Brexit. I'm going to vote labour again, even though I get called stupid for it by some people. Someone at work began bullying me because I'd voted labour last year? Who did he want me to vote for? Tom Dick?
Jeez.

^^^ I don't want to generalise to everyone (and yes individuals like yourself had your personal reasons)

I visited the UK last and totally understand why indigenous Brits want a halt to immigration. I would too, jobs, housing and cost of living, I would be more comfortable with restricting migration to professionals or people with skills needed in the UK who can pay tax and help the economy. And yes, there are limits to how many refugees a country can absorb.

the problem was with Farage himself. the medicine he offered (Brexit) was worse than the repercussions (a simple google search would have outlined the impact of Brexit on cost of living). Based on that I wouldn't have rushed to leave. Secondly Farage promised a reduction in illegal immigrants. It actually made no impact.
https://www.cidob.org/en/publications/p ... mmigration

I also accept there are lifelong republicans who will blindly vote for their party. But they aren't fooling everyone, in the republican primaries they were moved by racist slogans > economy/jobs/health. trump promised to bring jobs back. How? everyone knows US labour costs are too high and tariffs mean everything becomes expensive (likewise Brits knew this too when they opted for Brexit). that's why I said, it's selective ignorance. Voluntarily drinking right wing "kool aid"

I sooooooo wish you can fire a President.

Congress can, but they won’t.

I agree too, a s l o w painful death.

I'm a bit reluctant to give my opinion on immigration as I understand it's a sore subject online, but all I'd like to say is that Kier Starmer isn't handling immigration very well.