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02 Oct 2007, 7:34 pm

wow,- i have to say this is stupid reason to sue.. cause in my view and by research gluten isnt a cause of autism. if it was dont you think everyone would have autism/aspergers by now. anyway of course everyone will have different opinions on the gluten subject.


McDonald's sued by local consumers
Two lawsuits filed Monday in St. Charles County against McDonald's Corp. and local franchises claim that McDonald's failure to disclose prior to February 2006 that milk and wheat were used as ingredients in their French fries and hash browns resulted in aggravating the medical symptoms of two young children.

The lawsuits were filed by attorneys Brian Smith of West Palm Beach, Fla., and Paul Rechenberg of Rechenberg Law LLC in Chesterfield, on behalf of two children in O'Fallon, Mo. Both children suffer from medical conditions, including celiac disease, that prohibits them from consuming food products that contain gluten and casein, a protein found in milk, according to a release. The suit also says symptoms of autism were aggravated by the ingredients. view article



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02 Oct 2007, 7:51 pm

That is just wrong. This is a big part of what's wrong with the world today. Everybody's pointing fingers, looking for someone to blame for their problems. So stupid.



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02 Oct 2007, 8:04 pm

Woman, spills hot coffee on herself. It's McDonald's fault...

Why are they feeding their kids at McDonald's? (ret.) It is well known the food there is unhealthy for the general populous. Again. someone trying to blame someone else for their bad decisions and or stupidity.

They'll win. They always do. Then there will be warnings placed on everything that has gluten and dairy. Which is about everything that is processed or 90% of products in the supermarket. Restaurants will have to put notices on their doors warning people that they use wheat and milk in their cooking.

Blame the farmers for growing wheat and milking cows. All of the farmers out there that does this know that their products cause problems in people and they keep doing it. Damn them. Lawyers unite. Sue all farmers. Make tons of money!!


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02 Oct 2007, 11:22 pm

McDonald's is a cess pool. The food is unhealthy slop. In my opinion, no human being should eat there, much less a child who needs healthy choices at every meal. If you're watching your child's diet, that would be numero uno on my list of places to avoid. Hell, it already IS at the top of my list of places to avoid. I say, if your kid is on the GFCF diet, you're mentally inept for taking them to a fast food joint. Even if McDonald's was GFCF-friendly...there's no reason to stuff your kid full of trans fat and empty calories. Might as well give them a giant plate of candy and a can of soda for dinner, it would be healthier.

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03 Oct 2007, 8:29 am

I'm afraid to go outdoors, in case someone should find a reason to sue me for something...
McDonalds ( as well as other outlets) have nutritional information booklets available for the customer if you ask for one. The first thing you'll find is that the food is not healthy in general ( except maybe the salads). If you have a kid who has specific dietary requirements, why take them to eat junk when you KNOW it isn't good for them?
Same as fat people suing McDonalds--- no one put a gun to their heads and made them eat it.



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03 Oct 2007, 11:07 am

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I'm afraid to go outdoors, in case someone should find a reason to sue me for something...
McDonalds ( as well as other outlets) have nutritional information booklets available for the customer if you ask for one. The first thing you'll find is that the food is not healthy in general ( except maybe the salads). If you have a kid who has specific dietary requirements, why take them to eat junk when you KNOW it isn't good for them?
Same as fat people suing McDonalds--- no one put a gun to their heads and made them eat it.


EXACTLY.

And for the record, the salads aren't healthy either. They average 26 grams of fat per serving, and they also contain trans fat. Are they to blame for making stuff sound healthy when it's not? Perhaps. But it's common knowledge that McDonalds sucks nutritionally, and as you say, no one forced it down their throats. Further, exacerbating symptoms of a condition is not "cause" and thus the lawsuit should be (and hopefully will be) thrown out.


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03 Oct 2007, 12:00 pm

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Woman, spills hot coffee on herself. It's McDonald's fault...

Sorry, but I have to correct this one, it's one of those things that really, really annoys me, because of the amount of misinformation McDonalds managed to spread around in the aftermath of the case. They were sued because the coffee was heated to over 190 degrees F, more than 50 degrees higher than it's generally accepted it's safe to serve hot drinks. If I spill coffee over myself, I expect to be hurt, but I don't expect 3rd degree burns over a quarter of my body, which is what the unfortunate punter in question asked for. I believe they originally only sued for something in the region of $2,000, medical costs and time off work for their daughter to care for them. The jury decided that McDonalds was so reckless that they awarded punitive damages, but that wasn't what the plaintiff originally asked for. The case was a good one, McDonalds now doesn't heat its coffee to over 130 degrees, and they were rightly slapped hard for the way they fought the case. (Oh, and IIRC the damages the jury awarded were calculated on the basis of 2 days worth of coffee sales by McDonalds at the time.)


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03 Oct 2007, 12:24 pm

mmaestro wrote:
LogicGenerator wrote:
Woman, spills hot coffee on herself. It's McDonald's fault...

Sorry, but I have to correct this one, it's one of those things that really, really annoys me, because of the amount of misinformation McDonalds managed to spread around in the aftermath of the case. They were sued because the coffee was heated to over 190 degrees F, more than 50 degrees higher than it's generally accepted it's safe to serve hot drinks. If I spill coffee over myself, I expect to be hurt, but I don't expect 3rd degree burns over a quarter of my body, which is what the unfortunate punter in question asked for. I believe they originally only sued for something in the region of $2,000, medical costs and time off work for their daughter to care for them. The jury decided that McDonalds was so reckless that they awarded punitive damages, but that wasn't what the plaintiff originally asked for. The case was a good one, McDonalds now doesn't heat its coffee to over 130 degrees, and they were rightly slapped hard for the way they fought the case. (Oh, and IIRC the damages the jury awarded were calculated on the basis of 2 days worth of coffee sales by McDonalds at the time.)


Also, contrary to popular belief, the woman who burned herself was sitting in the *passenger* seat of a *parked* car, not driving a moving one.

McDonald's was found 80% responsible because it had continued to require its coffee to be served at that temperature despite *seven hundred* previous complaints, some of which they paid money to settle, and because the warning on the cup was too small. The plaintiff was found 20% responsible for not heeding the warning.



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03 Oct 2007, 2:07 pm

technically McDonald's is at fault for this one because they claim their fries and hashbrowns to be gluten and casein free. Therefore, the consumer was under the impression that the food in question was safe for them to eat when in fact it was not.


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03 Oct 2007, 5:49 pm

ChelseaOcean wrote:
mmaestro wrote:
LogicGenerator wrote:
Woman, spills hot coffee on herself. It's McDonald's fault...

Sorry, but I have to correct this one, it's one of those things that really, really annoys me, because of the amount of misinformation McDonalds managed to spread around in the aftermath of the case. They were sued because the coffee was heated to over 190 degrees F, more than 50 degrees higher than it's generally accepted it's safe to serve hot drinks. If I spill coffee over myself, I expect to be hurt, but I don't expect 3rd degree burns over a quarter of my body, which is what the unfortunate punter in question asked for. I believe they originally only sued for something in the region of $2,000, medical costs and time off work for their daughter to care for them. The jury decided that McDonalds was so reckless that they awarded punitive damages, but that wasn't what the plaintiff originally asked for. The case was a good one, McDonalds now doesn't heat its coffee to over 130 degrees, and they were rightly slapped hard for the way they fought the case. (Oh, and IIRC the damages the jury awarded were calculated on the basis of 2 days worth of coffee sales by McDonalds at the time.)


Also, contrary to popular belief, the woman who burned herself was sitting in the *passenger* seat of a *parked* car, not driving a moving one.

McDonald's was found 80% responsible because it had continued to require its coffee to be served at that temperature despite *seven hundred* previous complaints, some of which they paid money to settle, and because the warning on the cup was too small. The plaintiff was found 20% responsible for not heeding the warning.


Let everyone get their facts straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v. ... estaurants

I suppose when I order Hot coffee I expect it hot. I suppose I'm wrong about that. If I then then spill it on myself, it's my fault. But I guess I'm wrong about that.

If it was done at home from her own coffee maker she would have sued the manufacturer. Hypothetical of course. But cases like this are brought to trial all the time so it also would be expected.

It's just a trial about a poor little elderly woman and a big bad company. Emotion versus money.

By the way. "...and McDonald's policy today is to serve coffee between 80 and 90 degrees Celsius (176-194 degrees Fahrenheit)..."


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03 Oct 2007, 6:27 pm

I remember the hot coffee incident.

I heard that someone sued McDonald's because they put cheese on his Quarter Pounder.

It's called the Quarter Pounder *with Cheese*!

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03 Oct 2007, 9:20 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I remember the hot coffee incident.

I heard that someone sued McDonald's because they put cheese on his Quarter Pounder.

It's called the Quarter Pounder *with Cheese*!

Tim


I heard that too about the cheese, and that the guy ate half or more of it before he complained about it! duh! (assuming what I heard is even half true, it was my husband who told me about that one!). :wink:


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03 Oct 2007, 11:19 pm

You guys are talking apples and oranguatans.
Old lady got severe burns from coffee that was too hot, if it burned her skin then it's too hot to consume. I know the mentality of fast food managers and why they would serve boiling coffee. I had a boss at a Carl's Jr literally pour salt on fries until they were inedible, because someone complained they weren't salty enough. Obviously the complainer could have had his own extra salt packets and that wouldhave been the end of the story. But long after that guy was gone, the boss oversalted all the fries for all the subsequent orders. That's just nuts.

But anyhow, injury from incompetence is different from injury due to allergy. It's practically impossible to isolate prepared foods and declare them "gluten free" or "casein free". And your allergy is yours. Are restaurants with pre-existing menus responsible for adhering to your special diet? I don't think so.
The article doesn't specify what the damages are. What injuries could occur after that? Fart Fest 2007? oh, that's my lactose intolerance talking. :oops:



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04 Oct 2007, 12:04 am

well actually the original topic is valid, McDonalds said they had a product that is gluten and casein free when in fact it was not. If you have celiac disease then it is a big deal for you to ingest the gluten.


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04 Oct 2007, 12:13 am

jaleb wrote:
well actually the original topic is valid, McDonalds said they had a product that is gluten and casein free when in fact it was not. If you have celiac disease then it is a big deal for you to ingest the gluten.


We aren't talking about them being sued by a person with celiac disease. Way to miss the whole point of the post.



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04 Oct 2007, 12:18 am

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Both children suffer from medical conditions, including celiac disease, that prohibits them from consuming food products that contain gluten and casein, a protein found in milk, according to a release. The suit also says symptoms of autism were aggravated by the ingredients. view article


the original post (and article)says they do!


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