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30 Nov 2007, 10:34 pm

http://www.bigpond.com/news/breaking/co ... 107019.asp


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30 Nov 2007, 10:39 pm

I heard a quote about this today. It went something like "I was honored with a medal for killing two men and discharged for loving one."



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30 Nov 2007, 10:51 pm

DejaQ wrote:
I heard a quote about this today. It went something like "I was honored with a medal for killing two men and discharged for loving one."


Ironic, yes?


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30 Nov 2007, 11:02 pm

A soldier is a soldier is a soldier. Their orientation shouldn't matter.


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30 Nov 2007, 11:05 pm

Quatermass wrote:
DejaQ wrote:
I heard a quote about this today. It went something like "I was honored with a medal for killing two men and discharged for loving one."


Ironic, yes?


Oh yeah. Reminds me of Alice's Restaurant.

"Sergeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."



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01 Dec 2007, 7:24 pm

You know what i say: Super-Duper!



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01 Dec 2007, 7:59 pm

DejaQ wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
DejaQ wrote:
I heard a quote about this today. It went something like "I was honored with a medal for killing two men and discharged for loving one."


Ironic, yes?


Oh yeah. Reminds me of Alice's Restaurant.

"Sergeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin' here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women,
kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug."


I love that song!

Glad that my daughter likes it too... she even heard him sing it in concert last year.
I'm also glad to know that my daughter supports gay marriage and I would figure gays in the military also.

I've always known the military has as diverse a population as the civilian world... can't understand why so many in uniform refuse to acknowledge that fact also....

THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GAYS IN THE MILITARY! No harm has come to the poor defenseless heteros that I have ever seen or heard. :shrug:


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02 Dec 2007, 2:23 am

Ya, it certainly should not matter, but their lifestyle should not interfere with their professional duties, privatly they should be able to do whatever it is that they dont want.

HUT 2, 3, 4 HUT, 2, 3, 4 DONT ASK DONT TELL 2, 3, 4.


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02 Dec 2007, 7:17 am

Gay men are allowed in the Swiss military, and when was the last time Switzerland was invaded?

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02 Dec 2007, 8:04 am

I think the reason for this action by the US Military is because sadly gay's have not been accepted socially and there afraid it will cause a lock of trust among the unit thus lowering the units effectivness.

Its sad - I agree


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02 Dec 2007, 8:28 am

Bad idea, because they will get bullied and discriminated against by other personnel.


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02 Dec 2007, 3:27 pm

and besides.

The United States is supposed to be the tolerant one.


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02 Dec 2007, 8:47 pm

TheZach wrote:
I think the reason for this action by the US Military is because sadly gay's have not been accepted socially and there afraid it will cause a lock of trust among the unit thus lowering the units effectivness.

Not terribly dissimilar to the WWII attitude toward black soldiers - until Truman issued an order, as Commander in Chief, to integrate the services.

Oddly enough, none of the terrible things foreseen by the bigots came to pass...


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03 Dec 2007, 1:12 pm

"Don't ask, don't tell" was a bad idea in the first place.


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03 Dec 2007, 1:50 pm

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"Don't ask, don't tell" was a bad idea in the first place.



according to whom?>


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03 Dec 2007, 2:27 pm

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"Don't ask, don't tell" was a bad idea in the first place.

It is certianly far from perfect, but it was better than having people investigated and thrown out for the slightest hint of gayness. It was a step forward in that it openly acknowledged that there *are* gay people in the military, and that they are capable of doing their jobs just fine.