Cops: More smoke toad venom to get high

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05 Dec 2007, 7:24 am

Cops: More smoke toad venom to get high

Anything that get's today's youth more involved in the study of the natural world is a good thing in my book...



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05 Dec 2007, 7:44 am

Jeeze.... such lengths to alter ones consiousness. Thats gross, I have never tried it nor have I heard of anybody I knew every trying such a thing.

What is even more unbeleivable is the fact that someone can get possession of a controled substance for possessing the toad. I never knew that PCS could involve anything substance that was not made illegal, because their is no law that I am awair of that does not allow people to possess frogs.


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05 Dec 2007, 8:02 am

It's actually not a good idea to have that stuff. I think cane toads have the same stuff....

Yeah, but in smaller amounts. Less bufotenin in the bufotoxin.


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05 Dec 2007, 11:16 am

woodsman25 wrote:
I never knew that PCS could involve anything substance that was not made illegal, because their is no law that I am awair of that does not allow people to possess frogs.


It's scary. Anyone with a pet toad could get arrested. Who knows what they'll turn to next. Will they start arresting people for posessing nutmeg? Or morning glories? Some people try to get high off of those things too. And then there's glue, and anything in an aerosol can. The fact is that we live in a world full of things that can be used to alter one's state of mind or are rumored to do so. I don't think there's any way to change that.

Another worrisome thing about this story is that some people may mistreat the toads. Even if no harm is done through the venom extraction, the toads could suffer if they are kept by people who are ignorant about their care. Reptiles and amphibians have needs that are very different from more popular pets. They need a certain temperature gradient and humidity level. In captivity, they are frequently killed or sickened by cold and dehydration.



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06 Dec 2007, 6:25 am

EvilKimEvil wrote:
It's scary. Anyone with a pet toad could get arrested. Who knows what they'll turn to next. Will they start arresting people for posessing nutmeg? Or morning glories? Some people try to get high off of those things too. And then there's glue, and anything in an aerosol can. The fact is that we live in a world full of things that can be used to alter one's state of mind or are rumored to do so. I don't think there's any way to change that.


The politicians and the prison industry make more money this way, more than they'd get from taxing consumption of the drug, like most governments do with alcohol and cigarettes. This way, they can tax everyone (to pay for cops and prisons) rather than simply those who choose to consume a given, legal substance.

Follow the money.

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According to a 2005 report of the International Centre for Prison Studies in London, the United States—with five percent of the world’s population—houses 25 percent of the world’s inmates. Our incarceration rate (714 per 100,000 residents) is almost 40 percent greater than those of our nearest competitors (the Bahamas, Belarus, and Russia). Other industrial democracies, even those with significant crime problems of their own, are much less punitive: our incarceration rate is 6.2 times that of Canada, 7.8 times that of France, and 12.3 times that of Japan. We have a corrections sector that employs more Americans than the combined work forces of General Motors, Ford, and Wal-Mart, the three largest corporate employers in the country, and we are spending some $200 billion annually on law enforcement and corrections at all levels of government, a fourfold increase (in constant dollars) over the past quarter century.

Never before has a supposedly free country denied basic liberty to so many of its citizens. In December 2006, some 2.25 million persons were being held in the nearly 5,000 prisons and jails that are scattered across America’s urban and rural landscapes. One third of inmates in state prisons are violent criminals, convicted of homicide, rape, or robbery. But the other two thirds consist mainly of property and drug offenders. Inmates are disproportionately drawn from the most disadvantaged parts of society. On average, state inmates have fewer than 11 years of schooling. They are also vastly disproportionately black and brown.


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06 Dec 2007, 11:02 am

Remember Give up the Toad from Family Guy?


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06 Dec 2007, 8:39 pm

What won't people do to get high? Huffing paint thinner, snorting Ritalin, toad venom, Sharpie pens and similar repulsive smelling marker pens! The list gets longer, and weirder, all the time.



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06 Dec 2007, 11:43 pm

It was fictional, of course, but the film Drugstore Cowboy (1989, Gus Van Sant) captured things neatly with its portrayal of a group of addled junkie thieves who put in more effort than any ten straight people in order to stay high.

The lead character, Bob:

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Well, to begin with, nobody, and I mean nobody, can talk a junkie out of using. You can talk to them for years, but sooner or later they're gonna get ahold of something. Maybe it's not dope. Maybe it's booze, maybe it's glue, maybe it's gasoline. Maybe it's a gunshot to the head. But something. Something to relieve the pressures of their everyday life, like having to tie their shoes.



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07 Dec 2007, 5:23 am

I don't think marker pens smell repulsive.


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07 Dec 2007, 7:04 pm

I heard about people getting high by licking some types of toads. It's something that people get high by actually licking a toad, Yuck!!



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09 Dec 2007, 7:51 pm

this perplexes me justs as much as crystal meth.
Meth addict: this is known for containing drain cleaner and various flammable chemicals. Awesome drug.
Toad venom user: This idea was first used by amazon tribe as a Deadly toxin. That seems like something I'd want to trip on.

In a a word idiots, let them die so Darwinism can take it's course.