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Y'know, no religious fella is going to become an atheist out of these arguments, and no atheist will become religious. I wonder why I participate when it's so silly.

Exit, stage right. ->

Peace.

WTF? Slowmutant, are you actually trying to use that lame "you don't believe in god, therefore you must be miserable" bit?

What, is the cold freezing your lil' old racist Canadian brain?
I will live without the wool covering my eyes. I am an increasingly wealthy and successful person, with the alarming new trait of making an enourmous and positive impact wherever I go.
You, however, seem to be content to bury your head in the sand, and make racist remarks about how I am of mixed descent.

Don't try pulling those lame attempts at arguments. Face it - your god is pathetic, ultimately inferior to myself or any like me. Accept the truth, because it's not going away.

Unlike religion, with it's - slowly - dwindling numbers.

WTH does the earth being flat have to do with calling people <fill in the blanks> honey?

Of course science is a fact. Belief is not a fact but I don't think that makes you any better to call people belonging to a particular group that you happen to dislike names.

NO ONE can prove there is NOT a God anymore than I can prove that there is. We are both applying logic different ways, but it is still logic. You say life is full of "accidents;" I say that I have evidence of too many "accidents" at just the right time to believe there isn't some logical force behind them.

My 11 year old AS son applies his own interpretation to faith, and I wish I could remember it accurately enough to post it. I think the essence is that he has concluded God is science and science is God. We are not, obviously, a family that takes the Bible literally. We have told our children that they are free to make their own decisions about faith and God, even though we are educating them in ours. My son loves logic and scientific method,. But even with that, one has to accept that there are things science can not and most likely will never be able to explain.

Those who misuse or misunderstand their own religion represent "faith" the same as I do. Neither is the whole, and neither can be discarded. The same as those who do not believe and those who do are all part of this thing called the human race. Pretty much everything on this earth is a mixed bag, and trying to make blanket assumptions about any group, or to ask which half represents the whole, is going to be inherently wrong from the beginning as a result. Each part deserves to be viewed on it's own, by it's own merits and faults.

We all have free will.

More than anything, I am upset by the arrogant and blanket statements in this thread. ANYONE who thinks in such sweeping terms is basically putting themselves on the same level as those they despise, because it is the lack of NUANCED thinking that is behind most that is unfair either under the guise of religion, or under the guise of science and logic. THIS is what I challenge, and I ask you to see. That way of viewing people and institutions will lead you down false paths.

I couldn't care a less if you believe exactly as I do, or understand my position, but I DO ask you to accept that perhaps there are valid positions out there that you do not have either the life experience, desire, or ability to see. Just because you can't see it, doesn't make it invalid. The blind man holding the tail of the elephant is every bit as accurate in his description of what an elephant must look like as is the blind man holding an ear. All of our ideas, all of our logic, is shaped and limited by what we have experienced, read, and known. Our life paths are different, and so our views are different. Neither is fully right; neither is fully wrong. It, in essence, "depends."

And with that, I think I should once again leave this thread.

Can you prove there is no God?