Whats wrong with Suicide?

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The band suicidal tendencies has a song called suicidal maniacs.....but as a rule that does not seem to be a very common classification.

Lol, I hated that back in 8th or 9th grade I used to listen to there stuff and people had to keep lipping off "Ummmmm... you know suicide is bad right?". Really!? Thanks, numbnuts.

I think ST's classification of 'suicidal' though had more to do with the tongue and cheek 'social suicide' or 'commercial suicide' - ie. keeping it real and taking your future, your course in life, into your hands - a bit less literally than their name, they'd hit on the topic but rearrange it as 'Well, I'm still here - better make the most of what I've got'.

Hey everyone, I just registered with this site, I'm kinda happy to have found it. Actually i was searching for answers about suicide, because Ive been contemplating/ made attempts it since I was a kid. Having aspergers has been a real pain in the asp. Shoot anyways, my friend who has full blown autism has a great site that helps me a lot to not only cope with it but thrive and have a good time. Anabellelistic dot com . So many of my problems stem from diet, sensitivities to chemicals or artificial conditions. Ah but the social aspect has me baffled still, that is kind of why I am here, my best friend is my cat, and I'm so fu#$ing lonely. Anyways I'm glad to have found this site, it helps.

Whatever it was a great band, I only have one album that was randomly given to me but I really like it. But yeah I think that is more what the name implied as well I mean based on the style of music it would make sense.

Suicide is scary. I hate my life and I hate the way I am, but I don't have the guts to commit suicide. And I know people will say ''OK you can't be that depressed then, otherwise you would go along and do it'', but it doesn't always necessarily mean that. I really, really hate being shy, unconfident, timid, stupid, and all those other things you can think of. It's the worst possible way to be, and when people say ''at least you're a nice person'', I don't buy that either because I know some selfish, insensitive sort of people who seem to get on better in life than I do.

Plus I come from a family who are all NTs, and I'm just watching all my cousins socially succeed, whilst I'm getting more shy and more timid by the year, until one day I'm going to finally turn into such an introverted person that I might not be able to speak to people any more. I doubt that will happen, since I have got better at social skills, but at the same time I've got shyer. Maybe it's because I've become so self-aware that I'm living in fear of doing or saying something stupid in social situations. I really can't go on being like this, it's awful. I'm trying all I can to get help with gaining confidence, but none of it seems to be working. It's like my brain is too stubborn to change, and I'm too unconfident to change myself, since it's not always that simple because I can't wire my brain the way I want it.

And no, I'm not going to take drugs like smoking weed or taking marajuana (however you spell it) because, I admit it, I'm very moral when it comes to drugs and there'd be gossip everywhere with people going ''oh my God, she's doing drugs! Jo, of all people!''
Anti-depressants aren't the answer either, because the side effects are too strong.

I've been extremely suicidal before, I'm not now though. I think because suicide and death are topics I've thought profoundly about I find them easier to talk about, and thus I can come across as harsh or unforgiving in some situations if I speak about it. For me the whole concept of death is interesting and not completely a bad thing. Some days I look forward to not being alive anymore but I do not want to kill myself to get there faster, death for me means an eternity of nothing, no feelings, no problems or feeling bad about your lack of success, as opposed to the chaos I have around and inside me now.
I was also in a psych ward, only for 3 days but it still shook me to my core. I remember I decided to tell my psychiatrist everything, I'm happy I did. The idea of failing at ending my life and finding myself back there scared me more than living life itself.
I really wish I could say that life gets better and I suppose.... I hope that it does. I'm not the best motivational speaker at this moment, sorry about that. But the feeling you have now will pass, I don't know how long it will take you to get there but when it does you'll have great and bad days, but the essential feeling I hope you will live to know, is the feeling that you don't wish to kill yourself.

Ive been on both sides of a suicide. 1 your the one attempting 2 your the one left behind or trying to stop it.
Nether one is any fun but I would rather be the one leaving this time than the one trying to put the shattered life back together. Ive lost two girlfriends when I was younger and one best friend. More than a decade and a half has past and I still look when I hear a similar voice or body gesture. I would have my self before I had kids but for a promise I made to the second girlfriend as she was dying not to kill myself for at lest twenty years that date passed a few months ago but now I have children to take care of. At that time my promise meant nothing to me I felt that I could have stopped it from happening be cause she didn't really want to die. One week after her funeral I did commit suicide and I say it that way because I died three times before they could get enough of the alcohol out of my system to keep me stable. That was the last attempt for me, even though there have been times I felt I had nothing to live for I know there are better days for me. Bottom line is it will cause pain for any one who loves you, even if you don't know they do yet.

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No satisfaction guarantee

Well, what I always wondered about with what a kind of self clearness people talk about suicide never being an option. Everything that has to do with death is hardly experience-able.
Same counts also for suicide bombers and such.
People are just afraid of death and that's why they simply dont like it. And eventually they might feel guilty.
Fact is that in principle there is no reasoning possible beyond death and there is no obvious reason to be afraid of it, either.

Nevertheless it is quite probable that you can have a happier life even after feeling like wanting to commit suicide. And then there is family and friends that you leave behind.
And that you are most probably in a state were you cannot clearly judge things any more.

Quite selfish though to not allow people their free will, even if they are in a normal mind state.

Suicide is not a crime. I mean, how could it ever be. Maybe threaten relatives with prison?
That would be at least effective and I wouldn't be surprised if you would find people that would vote for it...

Although, in the middle age suicide was a crime. People that committed suicide were not buried properly and said to end up in hell. And definitely not reborn
If you die of hunger that seemed to be ok back then. No reason to give you something to eat anyway.No reason to punish somebody that does not do anything against it.
Even though land lords were originally obliged to provide protection and welfare. And no reason to allow for suicide, who would otherwise pay the toll for the land...

This continues to today in certain aspects. People dont want anybody to commit suicide. But they neither necessarily want to help.

We feel obliged to help even if we cant but we get quite little back for it.
And the funny thing is that sounds somehow like my mum,
when she was insisting on something she started arguing that nobody would listen to her
because if we would, we would recognize the truth in it what she was saying...
Yeps

This suicide thing is also so interesting because there is people that want to take others on their journey to Valhalla. And I think the reasons are not yet completely understood or are they?
There is actually so little to argue with that would convince them...
And very little actually really convincing arguments against it, from the perspective of the person that wants to commit it is travelling into the non existent.

Life itself is such a thing as well that is impossible to find a reason for, I think nothing to uselessly waste too much energy on thinking about. That does not lead to anything.

We are there. And we manage quite well compared to what are our problems. Lots of strategies...
I think an NT one day in our head and he/she would go mad...

But quite many have the problem of being alone or feeling alone, as well.

Honestly, I do not know. While I would never consider suicide (if you are dead, you cannot fix what is wrong with you), I think everybody should be allowed to do whatever they want with their lives.

"But Magnus_Rex", you are probably asking, "what about the people left behind?" Well, my curious inner voice, the people who are left behind have their own lives to take care of. Everybody should take care of their own lives, avoid damaging other people's lives and nothing else.

I think that people should be able to do what they want with their life.

Im choosing to go on but if there ever comes a day when I chose not to do so it should be my decision.

I'm ok with suicide, I've thought about in the past and it just makes me feel more comfortable now that I know if things become too painful I can opt out. but for now I"m enjoying myself. I don't see any reason why you should be forced to exist when don't want to. it is selfish to want someone to live a painful existence just because you would be sad if they died.

"suicide" is the biggest decision any one could make. i can not contemplate making a decision that large.
the thing that is wrong with suicide is that one trades the suffering they "feel" for a non feeling "nothingness", and there is possibility for return from despair, but there is no possibility of return from death.

one can not "know" that there is a heaven unless they are insane, and if one buys a ticket in that lottery, and they pay for it with their life, then i would think their life would be lost.

there is "hope" in life. there is no hope in death.

I love the idea of suicide. It's an option, a permanent plan B that you can always fall back on if it turns out that you just can't cut it in life. Maybe you're just bored of living, maybe your life is a jumble of pain and confusion that you want to end. When suicide is an acceptable fallback, you're no longer being roped into it when there's nowhere else to turn, you're choosing of your own free will and exercising control over your fate. If anything, the availability of ending your own life on your own terms is empowering, and it has helped me get through at my most depressed times.

I fully respect anyone's decision to take their own life. Being very pragmatic, I consider suicide to be a completely valid, often beneficial, and tragically underused strategy for dealing with life.

Half serious, half tongue-in-cheek. But honestly, I don't see a problem with suicide.

Isn't that a bit too positive view on it? underused?
Do you think that people should kill themselves instead of doing something else to improve their lives?

Otherwise I agree that it is a valid option, just wouldn't want to call it underused.

Especially with aspies I think there is a tendency to describe things much worse than they actually are.
And maybe they know it, but it just doesn't help
because it doesn't fit to the internal "wiring", it doesn't turn into "granted".

If that kind of a person (that confuses the world to be much worse than it is) commits suicide that would be tragic