question for those who have lost someone to suicide
I PS'd on my last post while you were posting:
But about leaving; why not go away for a month, or two or three or more; give yourself a rest and a breathing space, if the alternative is suicidal depression and perhaps death?
When did you last go away for more than a day or two? When did you last have a holiday?
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To this day I remember like it was yesterday when my cousin shot himself, and I was 6 years old at the time. He was like 16 and although I only met him a couple times he always was super cool to me and treated me like a little brother. I obviously didn't understand it that well at the time, but enough so that I can recall how much it destroyed his family. My aunt and uncle divorced shortly afterward, and my uncle (my dad's brother) never got over it. Despite that, and all the other f**ked up things that happened afterward to my uncle, he was a total stand-up guy at all times, never got into any kind of downward spiral with booze/drugs/anything.
But eventually (two years ago, almost 20 years afterward!) it all became too much and he too killed himself in the same way that his son did. I know especially with suicide hindsight is 20/20 but in his case there really were no warning signs at all. He got out of bed one morning, called the police and gave them his name and address and said he was going to kill himself and that they could find him at home. They showed up in less than 5 minutes and he was already gone.
I PS'd on my last post while you were posting:
But about leaving; why not go away for a month, or two or three or more; give yourself a rest and a breathing space, if the alternative is suicidal depression and perhaps death?
When did you last go away for more than a day or two? When did you last have a holiday?
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yep, I need a break from all the stress. Ive got an essay coming up which is building pressure on me and Im really battleing with the social workers so its all a bit on top. The social workers have said I can have respite so maybe that will help.
Tom just made this video about me and I feel so touched by it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUVIzMEHnl8[/youtube]
But eventually (two years ago, almost 20 years afterward!) it all became too much and he too killed himself in the same way that his son did. I know especially with suicide hindsight is 20/20 but in his case there really were no warning signs at all. He got out of bed one morning, called the police and gave them his name and address and said he was going to kill himself and that they could find him at home. They showed up in less than 5 minutes and he was already gone.
thank you very much Amazon television for sharing your experiences with me, it really helps me very much.
I think it will help other suicidal aspies to keep in mind the effect on people.
It's lovely!
yes its so very wonderful! no one has ever said nice things like that about me before.
I feel such a horrible monster for distressing him all the time by talking about killing myself. Im such a mean s**tbag
I do not think your post is in bad taste. It is hard to know how suicide will effect people. It is hard to appreciate the devastation it leaves behind because people grieve in the weirdest ways. Even people who seem ok (unless the have some kind of disorder that genuinely alters their reactions) are not ok. They usually harbor guilt for feeling relieved if that person is a burden... They feel misery, then guilt for not doing something or knowing or saying the magic words that would have made them alive still, they wait for some guy to come in and tell them they are on candid camera or some crap, they feel rage, they feel dead inside. Sometimes they feel all that at once. I have watched people fall apart and never put themselves back together. I am one of those. When someone in my family dies naturally I just see it as part of the cycle of death and rebirth. I might miss them, but that kind of death makes sense to me. Suicide makes no sense to me. It really can destroy the living. I have seen it first hand too many times... trust me... I know.
do i have permission to show this to someone if they consider suicide?
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I do not think your post is in bad taste. It is hard to know how suicide will effect people. It is hard to appreciate the devastation it leaves behind because people grieve in the weirdest ways. Even people who seem ok (unless the have some kind of disorder that genuinely alters their reactions) are not ok. They usually harbor guilt for feeling relieved if that person is a burden... They feel misery, then guilt for not doing something or knowing or saying the magic words that would have made them alive still, they wait for some guy to come in and tell them they are on candid camera or some crap, they feel rage, they feel dead inside. Sometimes they feel all that at once. I have watched people fall apart and never put themselves back together. I am one of those. When someone in my family dies naturally I just see it as part of the cycle of death and rebirth. I might miss them, but that kind of death makes sense to me. Suicide makes no sense to me. It really can destroy the living. I have seen it first hand too many times... trust me... I know.
do i have permission to show this to someone if they consider suicide?
Oh yeah, not a problem at all.
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My absolute best friend has tried to kill herself a few times. One time was close, leaving her dead for two minutes. I just collapsed psychologically for about a week. During that week my housemate had three friends visiting, living and sleeping in the house for five of those days and I simply did not notice. Had she actually killed herself my breakdown would have been complete, just the sheer contradiction between the truth what I was psychologically capable of accepting. Would have failed university, working/volunteering would be out, doubt I could have handled social life. And this may have lasted years, its difficult to say. For all the struggles I currently face, that may have been the end of me or at least far, far worse off.
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I do not think that the damage I would do to someone is a good enough excuse to keep me from doing it.
It seems to me that that would make it even worse.
And I have seen that lots of the arguments are basically these:
"Please do not, you are young and [insert presumed asset here]!"
"That is selfish of you."
"[reason] is a horrible reason to do that."
And to be honest, none of these would keep me from it.
My sons father died on Xmas day 2008. At first it was considered a suicide by police but was then confirmed by the coroner that it was an accidental death by drug overdose.
We had not been together since my son was a baby. He is now 15. My son and he did not have a close relationship, but were in each others lives.
My sons father was a bigot, nasty, manipulative and aggressive. In and out of jail and completely unreliable. I had no problem with the drugs and made every effort to help him stay on methadone and get therapy to help with his issues.
To be brutally honest I wen through a kaleidoscope of emotions. He had left behind a wonderful fiance who I really respected. I was angry, quietly relieved, deeply sad, unsurprised and so on. This is when I thought it was suicide and strangely the feelings didn't change when the coroners report said differently. I mean, what did he expect with other pharmaceuticals coursing through his body? Did he think at the time that it was a GOOD idea?......and did he think of his son when making such a fatal error in judgement?
No he didn't.......to be honest, I could live with the idea that he wanted to end his life. He had had a revolting childhood which made my nasty childhood look like a walk in the park. He suffered through this life immensely. But he never got help EVEN though he was the first to admit that he seriously needed it. I busted my arse to get better so I could stay alive for my son.......I cannot help but project that onto him. He was a father after-all.
Sorry for my negative response........I am bitter, but only when I think of it.
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