15 Jan 2011, 12:08 pm
Lene wrote:
The bar staff may have been more inclined to offer you a free drink if you hadn't got in their face and angry about it. You may not have said any of the obscene phrases you posted here about them to their faces, but they could probably pick up on the attitude a mile off.
I'm not familiar with jukeboxes, where I come from, we just listen to whatever the DJ feels like playing, but $10 sounds an awful lot for a song, or were you planning on doing exactly the same as the birthday party was and booking out the jukebox for an hour?
I'm not familiar with jukeboxes, where I come from, we just listen to whatever the DJ feels like playing, but $10 sounds an awful lot for a song, or were you planning on doing exactly the same as the birthday party was and booking out the jukebox for an hour?
I didn't get angry at first Lene. I asked very nicely if I could have a beer on the house since I lost alot of money in the jukebox.
There comes a point when the gloves just come off though and trailer trash N
T filth like the individuals in question often have a unique way of getting my goat
Also....the ten dollars I put in the jukebox TECHNICALLY allowed me 15 songs. You can opt to have your songs played quicker however for a few extra credits and since it was quite late at this point (around 1:30am and the bar closes up at 3:00) and I knew i'd never hear all the songs if I didn't choose this option, that's precisely what I did for several of the songs.
I don't see how I was in the wrong for trying to "book out the jukebox for an hour" or whatever amount of time. Other people have done so countless times while i've been in bars with jukeboxes and it never raised my ire in the least. You see, most people in places like this are practically oblivious to the jukebox anyway. The vast majority of them are engrossed in their current microcosm which usually entails trying to "score" with some person they are attracted to, playing pool/darts, watching some god-forsaken sporting event on ESPN or one of the sports channels bars like this often have locked on their televisions, etc.....
If most people in bars like this are at all concerned with music while they are there, they are only concerned insofar as SOME music is being played as opposed to anything specific. Bottom line....not even one other person in that bar so much as even glanced at the jukebox. Even if someone wanted to play their own songs AFTER mine started playing, they could easily do so and for three credits (as opposed to one or two if you're not in a hurry to hear your song/s) A ND hear them before mine played. Had that been the case, I would have had absolutely no cause for complaint since that's what I and likely EVERYONE else does when putting money into these internet jukeboxes. That's just the chance you have to be willing to take and if it's early enough in the evening and you're sticking around awhile, you will hear your songs eventually. The former and as a result of course, the latter, was NOT the case on Friday night/Sat morning when this whole charming affair went down. I simply wished to hear at least MOST of the songs I played ASAP since I and everyone else aside from staff of course would be told to vacate the premises at 3:00am.
I don't know where you got the idea that the birthday party clowns attempted to book out the jukebox for an hour in any case.
I never said that and they did nothing of the sort. They were far too occupied by their infantile dumbf**kery to be concerned with the jukebox. Obviously they didn't want ANY music to be playing at all as it would have interfered with the extremely important and intelligent things... 
....they had to say (and sing in the tiresome, idiotically and moderately obscene, utterly predictable and shamelessly adolescent manner such untermensch usually do ) when they took to the stage and started uttering their vexatious drunken oinks into the mics....LOL.
Eh well.....hopefully they'll all be beaten to death with crowbars sometime in the near future
Or better yet.... torn to shreds by an 18ft, 2000lbs Nile Crocodile (I have great affinity and reverence for the magnificent, sublime and noble modern day dinosaurs known as crocodilians and I feel many humans would be a worthy source of sustenance for the splendid beasts 
). I certainly won't be taking such matters into my own hands however as I keep my own aggression and violence strictly internal, symbolic and aesthetic.
It's basically tongue-in-cheek as well.....if you couldn't already tell. Truth be told....I wish no harm on these poor absurd souls and nobody else. Still.... it's somewhat humorous and cathartic to joke around about it IMO and there is no such thing as a thought crime eh???
Even if I actually did have violent inclinations, people like them (and most humans for that matter) aren't worth losing my freedom and quite possibly, my very life, over.
Sooooooo......I hope i've cleared everything up here to your satisfaction Lene.
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15 Jan 2011, 12:14 pm
SaNcheNuSS wrote:
Im with Horus. Sometimes the Good Guys have to fight Evil because you can't reason with it.
Just because you are a good person doesn't mean that you have to be a wimp.
Just because you are a good person doesn't mean that you have to be a wimp.
Yup....some people will only respond to hostility and aggression. They unjustifiably treat everyone else in a shabby manner and will only back-off if show them you're not intimidated by their stupid a**es.
It is NOT within one's rational self-interest to be TOO nice to most people anyway. If you are, nine times out of ten they'll start taking advantage of you and treating you like a putz.
Sad.....but nonetheless true i'm afraid.
15 Jan 2011, 12:44 pm
Chronos wrote:
I speculate that perhaps instead of actually being angry that you were not able to listen to the songs you paid for, you may be angry because you felt alienated and excluded by default.
Wrong..... I didn't feel excluded per se....alienated.... yes....but I feel alienated just about everywhere and with just about everyone. That would include with many of my supposed fellows
"on the spectrum".
I speculate, that perhaps you actually want to...or at one time, wanted to be part of such a group. To have such friends, and either did not know how to obtain this type of belonging, or were rejected, and walking into this situation simply brought old sentiments to the surface.
Perhaps....but just for the nookie that often comes with being popular....LOL Everything else swine like this engages in is of absolutely no interest to me. Why should I wish to befriend pigs like the glorified ape crowd question? So I can sit around on Sundays with them watching "the big game" whilst drinking p*sswater Budweiser and having a farting contest? I think i'll pass....i'd prefer to watch the paint dry on my own walls rather than associate with benighted buffoons like that.
I was not much different when I was much younger. I used to feel resentful that I didn't have a group of friends, and I thought that I would be rejected from future groups by default because I was so different.
Well......i'm not saying i've never felt rejected by people I actually WANTED to associate with. Again the "people" in question would hardly qualify and such f**ktards never have in my book. The bottom line is this Chronos and I can't put it any plainer since I say what I mean and mean what I say:
I went to that bar for the SOLE PURPOSE of having a few beers and winding down after a stressful and exasperating week at work. I had no idea this bar even had an internet jukebox, nor did I know that a crowd of the bar's loser employees and regular patrons/friends of said employees would get up on stage and start behaving like a troop of Bonobo Apes on acid. I mean I couldn't care less if they wish to act in such a manner....I just wanted to hear the music that I PAID to hear and they, without the slightest consideration, prevented me from doing so.
1. I really AM the odd one out. I am an American in Japan, so to speak, and it is I who needs to make the effort. I need to be a diplomat of sorts.
I've known that for decades myself Chronos. I refuse to make an effort to conform to the ways of people like this UNLESS it's SIGNIFICANTLY within my rational self-interest to do so. If such people can DO anything positive for me (find me a job, recommend a good auto mechanic, etc....ad infinitum) then i'll kiss their a**es and conform to some reasonable extent. If not....they are utter non-entities to me and truly, I wouldn't so much as bat an eye if they dropped dead right in front of me. In fact....I may be inclined to feel the world has been rid of a noxious, negative and destructive pest and say good riddance
2. NT's can't be blamed for their social dynamics any more than people with AS can be blamed for theirs. The way NT's socialize is a complex system which is the end result of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. I can go into this more if you like.
Maybe so and again....the behavior ITSELF, pointless, immature and stupid though it was, of the people who caused the jukebox to be turned off isn't the issue here. Rather....the fact that they turned off the jukebox while I still had ten songs or something to hear is the crux of the matter. At any rate....I know all about the evolutionary development of NT's and those with AS. I don't think any of that is excuse for the way I was treated by the owner and his ridiculous and dentally-challenged rabble of aging female trailer trash bartenders who still think every man wants to get into their pants....LOL[/b]
3. NT's actually have an affinity for forming friendly social connections (there are multiple evolutionary advantages to doing so), and you actually have more potential friends than enemies, but you have to make the effort to be diplomatic much as an American in Japan must humble themselves and do their best to respect Japanese culture and speak Japanese.
Wrong..... I didn't feel excluded per se....alienated.... yes....but I feel alienated just about everywhere and with just about everyone. That would include with many of my supposed fellows
"on the spectrum".
I speculate, that perhaps you actually want to...or at one time, wanted to be part of such a group. To have such friends, and either did not know how to obtain this type of belonging, or were rejected, and walking into this situation simply brought old sentiments to the surface.
Perhaps....but just for the nookie that often comes with being popular....LOL Everything else swine like this engages in is of absolutely no interest to me. Why should I wish to befriend pigs like the glorified ape crowd question? So I can sit around on Sundays with them watching "the big game" whilst drinking p*sswater Budweiser and having a farting contest?
I think i'll pass....i'd prefer to watch the paint dry on my own walls rather than associate with benighted buffoons like that.I was not much different when I was much younger. I used to feel resentful that I didn't have a group of friends, and I thought that I would be rejected from future groups by default because I was so different.
Well......i'm not saying i've never felt rejected by people I actually WANTED to associate with. Again the "people" in question would hardly qualify and such f**ktards never have in my book. The bottom line is this Chronos and I can't put it any plainer since I say what I mean and mean what I say:
I went to that bar for the SOLE PURPOSE of having a few beers and winding down after a stressful and exasperating week at work. I had no idea this bar even had an internet jukebox, nor did I know that a crowd of the bar's loser employees and regular patrons/friends of said employees would get up on stage and start behaving like a troop of Bonobo Apes on acid. I mean I couldn't care less if they wish to act in such a manner....I just wanted to hear the music that I PAID to hear and they, without the slightest consideration, prevented me from doing so.
1. I really AM the odd one out. I am an American in Japan, so to speak, and it is I who needs to make the effort. I need to be a diplomat of sorts.
I've known that for decades myself Chronos. I refuse to make an effort to conform to the ways of people like this UNLESS it's SIGNIFICANTLY within my rational self-interest to do so. If such people can DO anything positive for me (find me a job, recommend a good auto mechanic, etc....ad infinitum) then i'll kiss their a**es and conform to some reasonable extent. If not....they are utter non-entities to me and truly, I wouldn't so much as bat an eye if they dropped dead right in front of me. In fact....I may be inclined to feel the world has been rid of a noxious, negative and destructive pest and say good riddance
2. NT's can't be blamed for their social dynamics any more than people with AS can be blamed for theirs. The way NT's socialize is a complex system which is the end result of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. I can go into this more if you like.
Maybe so and again....the behavior ITSELF, pointless, immature and stupid though it was, of the people who caused the jukebox to be turned off isn't the issue here. Rather....the fact that they turned off the jukebox while I still had ten songs or something to hear is the crux of the matter. At any rate....I know all about the evolutionary development of NT's and those with AS. I don't think any of that is excuse for the way I was treated by the owner and his ridiculous and dentally-challenged rabble of aging female trailer trash bartenders who still think every man wants to get into their pants....LOL[/b]
3. NT's actually have an affinity for forming friendly social connections (there are multiple evolutionary advantages to doing so), and you actually have more potential friends than enemies, but you have to make the effort to be diplomatic much as an American in Japan must humble themselves and do their best to respect Japanese culture and speak Japanese.
Eh well....I don't feel any comment is necessary from me here. No offense or anything and I could be very wrong, but it just doesn't seem relevant to the incident in question on Friday night/Saturday morning.
