"You don't have Asperger's"
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Has anyone experienced something similar to this?
I think she was inviting you to tell her to f*ck right off, personally.
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Five others. Two I barely get to talk to, one is a suspected Sociopath (His entire family suspects that he has it. And even he has admitted it's possible, as he has an extremely lack of empathy. People have pointed out where he's hurt people because of his lack of empathy and he acts completely apathetic. He has also shown to be extremely cunning, though is socially crippled.) The last two are both diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and I get along with them both extremely, extremely well.
Haha really? What did he do?
I don't think sociopath is a diagnosable illness or whatever, but yeah if he's purposefuly malicious you'd probably want to stay away. If he's just a dick that's another matter.
If you still want to be friends with this guy that's giving you trouble about AS tell him you don't want to hear about it. At least then you won't (ideally) have to deal with it.
Otherwise she's just a moron. Seriously, she's f*****g ret*d. That's all there is.
You clearly have other friends. Better friends. It's up to you to decide whether she's worth the trouble.
Five others. Two I barely get to talk to, one is a suspected Sociopath (His entire family suspects that he has it. And even he has admitted it's possible, as he has an extremely lack of empathy. People have pointed out where he's hurt people because of his lack of empathy and he acts completely apathetic. He has also shown to be extremely cunning, though is socially crippled.) The last two are both diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and I get along with them both extremely, extremely well.
Haha really? What did he do?
I don't think sociopath is a diagnosable illness or whatever, but yeah if he's purposefuly malicious you'd probably want to stay away. If he's just a dick that's another matter.
If you still want to be friends with this guy that's giving you trouble about AS tell him you don't want to hear about it. At least then you won't (ideally) have to deal with it.
Otherwise she's just a moron. Seriously, she's f***ing ret*d. That's all there is.
You clearly have other friends. Better friends. It's up to you to decide whether she's worth the trouble.
Well. His cousin calls him cunning at least. Last major thing I'm aware of, without giving a huge story was during a stay to a mental ward he orchestrated an event where two Schizophrenics would kill each other. No, seriously. He went in there planning to have them fight or kill each other, solely as an act of revenge towards one for not giving him money. He's also used people to get money and drugs. He once was genuinely nice and caring, but that part of him has long died.
Onto the matter of her inviting me to tell her to f*** off? Sadly that wasn't the case. I did tell her to do that, then found out she was bashing me behind my back, claiming that I was refusing her "Sound advice"
Dear Comred Kael, If anyone ever hurts you deliberately, for amusement,ask yourself why you are allowing an abuser (or 2) in your life. Someone I know was going through a divorce, hurt like....,you know? So one day I said 'Congratulations!). He said 'What for?'. I said 'For getting rid of 150 pounds of unwanted weight!'. Made him laugh, he started talking about how hard he'd tried, had been willing to try anything,etc...maybe you need to see these 'friends' as unwanted weight, holding you down. You've got 2 nice friends in your life, focus on them.....lose the weight....Sylkat
i know what you are saying. dont let this person treat you like that.
ive had people say that, and they really dont know me at all, so they take me face value and decide i need to stop attention seeking and everyone else ''experiences the same aspergerness sometimes''. f*****g a**holes.
but having a diagnoses of aspergers was the most helpful thing that happened to me because it explained everything and why my behaviours are like they are. that is really important. knowing who you are. if people cant accept who you are, they're c*nts.
ive also found that some people who study psychology end up saying you're everything under the sun eventually. for me personally, ones that really helped, i went through a lengthy process for my diagnoses and they saw me for who i am. and the diagnoses all makes sense to me -, i am a person who has aspergers -. and its discrimination if someone says you dont to make you feel bad, or small and anything negative and upsetting
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I'm seriously contemplating that in both cases. For one I already made up my mind after the other night. The other will be a lot harder, but he strikes me more as the type to just shrug and remain apathetic.
The initial diagnosis was a relief. Though at the same time I didn't know much about Asperger's, or Autism as a whole and the first thing I thought of was Rain Man which I took as an insult.
Looking back I have no idea why it wasn't found sooner, all the signs were there.
The initial diagnosis was a relief. Though at the same time I didn't know much about Asperger's, or Autism as a whole and the first thing I thought of was Rain Man which I took as an insult.
Looking back I have no idea why it wasn't found sooner, all the signs were there.
I know what you mean. I dont know why, i guess its because people dont know aspergers well enough. thats what i find. i had no idea what it was. its like you said, with just autism you have this image of rain man and maybe thats what most people think of
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Well. His cousin calls him cunning at least. Last major thing I'm aware of, without giving a huge story was during a stay to a mental ward he orchestrated an event where two Schizophrenics would kill each other. No, seriously. He went in there planning to have them fight or kill each other, solely as an act of revenge towards one for not giving him money. He's also used people to get money and drugs. He once was genuinely nice and caring, but that part of him has long died.
Onto the matter of her inviting me to tell her to f*** off? Sadly that wasn't the case. I did tell her to do that, then found out she was bashing me behind my back, claiming that I was refusing her "Sound advice"
Well he sounds dangerous. Be careful if you try to break off the friendship or whatever. Don't want someone like that as an enemy. Maybe try being boring or something and he'll lose interest over time. Who knows. People like him always fascinated me to be honest.
With the girl... I don't know, it's tough. I never found a way to deal with people like that. When stuff like that happened to me I tended to distance myself and that was that. I have an idea of what I would say if I saw someone I know doing something like that again but I tend to lose my temper very quickly when it comes to discussing AS with someone that doesn't know what they're talking about...
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The initial diagnosis for me was not a relief. If anything it made things slightly worse. I knew from there my brain was irreversibly f****d up and there was no way to change it. I don't like the idea that I'm going to have a permanent weakness no matter how much I try to improve.
Yeah I talked to someone online who supposedly studied psychology and they didn't think I had aspergers as well.
I am not diagnosed, so I will never say with 100% certainty that I do, but I definitely feel I relate to 99% of the symptoms.
This is why I haven't mentioned it to my mom either, no doubt she wouldn't believe it until I got a diagnosis.
What I don't understand about that case was before he went on like a drug binge for six months he was different. Like, honestly different. He genuinely cared about others, was a funny guy and great to talk to if you were having problems. It wasn't an act either. But after DXM? (The stuff in cough medicine.) he just changed.
Even with a diagnosis my Mom refuses to accept it, but that's because if anyone besides her has a problem she does everything to diminish it, so that everyone will solely focus on "her problems" (Which amount to nothing. She's just has Anti-Social Personality Disorder. She claims it's just Bipolar though.). And my Step-Dad has gone so far as to say that "It doesn't exist".
The girl this thread was originally about, now that I remember. Also said if I acknowledge something is wrong I wouldn't have stopped taking my medicine. Risperidone is what a Doctor prescribed me recently. But I can barely walk around the house, think, or do anything without feeling like I'm dead.
Dear Comrade Kael, Toxic people are just that. Poison. The more time you spend around poison, the more YOU are poisoned. I don't care if that isn't classic Freudian, it is true. You need to be away from people who drag you down, make you doubt yourself, and do nothing for you. Please lose the weight...Sylkat
Drugs mess with the brain. They can change you. You can probably talk to him about it if you really want to find out. I don't see why he wouldn't tell you what changed for him. Don't expect him to change back though.
Most people are probably aware that the girl thinks she knows it all. They probably get that a lot of it's going to be wrong or mis-guided. What she said may not be a big deal as far as everybody else is concerned, for what it's worth.
Good thing she only minored in psychology.
No diagnostic criteria gives the full picture of that which it is used to diagnose, in part because diagnostic criteria today is written in an incredibly conservative manner for various reasons, and NTs, relying largely on non-verbal, non-written language could never obtain from such descriptions all of the information they need to form a complete picture.
Many have written in here having been excluded from a diagnosis by professionals who stated they could not have AS because they made eye contact, or couldn't have AS because they were aware of their condition (not in the diagnostic criteria at all!). People have been told they are too quite to have AS (by those who's initial experiences were with the louder individuals with AS), or too "social" to have AS (by those who's initial experiences were with the more quite individuals). Some have been told they couldn't have AS because they have a sense of humor, understood a figure of speech, or just plain didn't look like they had AS.
In other words, a lot of people who should know something about AS, know next to nothing about AS.
It doesn't help matters that the media insists in presenting individuals with AS in embellished, frequently over exaggerated forms anyway.
