I have this grandoise idea that I might be St.John/Lucifer

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02 Feb 2013, 3:47 pm

I know two reasons a person starts thinking they are someone else: 1) They are going nuts. 2) They aren't satisfied with who they are.

I know two things you can run from that will always find you in the end: 1) Death. 2) Yourself



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03 Feb 2013, 2:14 am

He took down his videos.


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03 Feb 2013, 2:32 am

seaturtleisland wrote:
What I can't understand is why the title is worded "I have this grandoise idea that I might be St.John/Lucifer.

That doesn't make sense. If WhiteWidow used that word doesn't that mean he recognizes the idea as unrealistic?

Say I really believed I was a demon. I would title the thread stating |I'm a demon" rather than "I have this grandoise idea that I'm really a demon".


I might be wrong and I'm sorry if I sound dismissive but this doesn't seem genuine to me.


I had a boyfriend who would occasionally smoke dust and then believe he was the reincarnation of Jesus for... a while... afterward.
Even in the midst of it, he could recognize that the idea was not realistic but the conviction was so strong that it took a while to shake (at least until the drug was out of his system). I would imagine it's the same with other mental health issues. While the idea holds sway, it's completely logical. Maybe only afterward do you see just HOW unrealistic it was.

as an unrelated aside: I always thought it was interesting that EVERY TIME he smoked dust, this same delusion returned. I warned his friend once before a "party" and the friend laughed me off. Later he told me that he thought I was joking or exaggerating but exactly what I said would happen, happened. He also fled and left me to deal with the "risen Christ" so... yeah. Great. :roll:



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03 Feb 2013, 6:05 am

The belief that you are someone else sounds fun for one time but after that it sounds scary.


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03 Feb 2013, 12:54 pm

cozysweater wrote:
seaturtleisland wrote:
What I can't understand is why the title is worded "I have this grandoise idea that I might be St.John/Lucifer.

That doesn't make sense. If WhiteWidow used that word doesn't that mean he recognizes the idea as unrealistic?

Say I really believed I was a demon. I would title the thread stating |I'm a demon" rather than "I have this grandoise idea that I'm really a demon".


I might be wrong and I'm sorry if I sound dismissive but this doesn't seem genuine to me.


I had a boyfriend who would occasionally smoke dust and then believe he was the reincarnation of Jesus for... a while... afterward.
Even in the midst of it, he could recognize that the idea was not realistic but the conviction was so strong that it took a while to shake (at least until the drug was out of his system). I would imagine it's the same with other mental health issues. While the idea holds sway, it's completely logical. Maybe only afterward do you see just HOW unrealistic it was.


There's a fine line between that and something similar but normal. I've had very strong ideas pressing on me that were completely absurd while simultaneously arguing with myself.

The idea comes into my head "I'm psychic". I argue with it telling myself "no I'm not". The idea doesn't disappear and it keeps saying "I'm psychic" while I keep thinking "no I'm not". That's cognitive dissonance to the extreme.

Ideas are different from beliefs. Beliefs are held with conviction. Ideas aren't.

I'm not delusional. I have this idea that I have the spirit of a demon and that a false memory of mine is the result of that. It's an idea. It's not a belief. A gandoise idea doesn't make someone schizophrenic anymore than my idea that I am a demon makes me delusional. If it was a belief I'd be delusional. If the grandoise idea was a belief the person holding it would be delusional.

An idea is not a belief and if you call it an idea you don't believe it you just think "it might be true".



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04 Feb 2013, 10:06 pm

Yeah well then im Santa Claus. and my My mum's side of the family are the elves.
Grow up already.