STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER
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The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
I deliberately tried to hurt you in some way with my post.
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My goal was absolutely to harm you in some way, but I honestly believed your comments were harmful and disrespectful to the TC. I was wrong about this.
You should think very carefully about what you attempted to do there, and you definitely need to gain a better understanding of the site rules:
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My goal was absolutely to harm you in some way, but I honestly believed your comments were harmful and disrespectful to the TC. I was wrong about this.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt12459.html
In future, report posts you think are problematic to a moderator.
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Cornflake wrote:
Some members on this thread seem to think it's Ok to push their weight about with name-calling, making denigrating comments, or attacking and threatening others.
This will stop immediately otherwise I'll start to seriously consider suspensions.
This will stop immediately otherwise I'll start to seriously consider suspensions.
I hope my posts are not such as it is not my intent. I merely hoped to create a dialogue that raised awareness as to why such is not ok. If I have "crossed any lines" I extend my apologies yet again.
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The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
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However, I never tried to justify my actions. I deliberately tried to hurt you in some way with my post.
Was it in defense of the TC? Partially, but as I said there were better ways to do it if I was in any way considerate of your feelings. Does that mean I'm here to bully people? No. I do happen to have a problem with you in particular but I was completely wrong about your post in the other thread.
As for all this psychoanalysis stuff on the heart and soul of a cyber bully, I think that's a little bit ridiculous. I interpreted a thread based on the posts that I had seen and reacted strongly to you seemingly making light of a serious issue that I'm passionate about with your dumb comments. Had I seen that particular post from the TC stating it was for sure all one big joke I wouldn't have reacted the way I did.
It was absolutely not okay for the TC to joke about killing himself. His first post undeniably tricked a lot of people into thinking he was serious..
My goal was absolutely to harm you in some way, but I honestly believed your comments were harmful and disrespectful to the TC. I was wrong about this.
However, I never tried to justify my actions. I deliberately tried to hurt you in some way with my post.
Was it in defense of the TC? Partially, but as I said there were better ways to do it if I was in any way considerate of your feelings. Does that mean I'm here to bully people? No. I do happen to have a problem with you in particular but I was completely wrong about your post in the other thread.
As for all this psychoanalysis stuff on the heart and soul of a cyber bully, I think that's a little bit ridiculous. I interpreted a thread based on the posts that I had seen and reacted strongly to you seemingly making light of a serious issue that I'm passionate about with your dumb comments. Had I seen that particular post from the TC stating it was for sure all one big joke I wouldn't have reacted the way I did.
It was absolutely not okay for the TC to joke about killing himself. His first post undeniably tricked a lot of people into thinking he was serious..
My goal was absolutely to harm you in some way, but I honestly believed your comments were harmful and disrespectful to the TC. I was wrong about this.
while it saddens me that you DO "have a problem" with me "personally", especially since you don't know me at all, at least you acknowledge that there are better ways to address your concerns. I would have said as much in my previous post, but it was already far too long.
consider my thoughts ridiculous if you will. It doesn't change the fact that your reaction (and continued resentment) mirrors data published from available research on such topics. I am merely stating that this fact is something that you may want to consider, if you care about how your actions appear to others.
Thank you for acknowledging that there are better ways to address your concerns.
I'm sorry to hear that you hold issue with a complete stranger to you, (me)
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FlanMaster wrote:
while it saddens me that you DO "have a problem" with me "personally", especially since you don't know me at all, at least you acknowledge that there are better ways to address your concerns. I would have said as much in my previous post, but it was already far too long.
consider my thoughts ridiculous if you will. It doesn't change the fact that your reaction (and continued resentment) mirrors data published from available research on such topics. I am merely stating that this fact is something that you may want to consider, if you care about how your actions appear to others.
Thank you for acknowledging that there are better ways to address your concerns.
I'm sorry to hear that you hold issue with a complete stranger to you, (me)
consider my thoughts ridiculous if you will. It doesn't change the fact that your reaction (and continued resentment) mirrors data published from available research on such topics. I am merely stating that this fact is something that you may want to consider, if you care about how your actions appear to others.
Thank you for acknowledging that there are better ways to address your concerns.
I'm sorry to hear that you hold issue with a complete stranger to you, (me)
This is the bit I have a problem with.
I think you're a little bit full of yourself in your assessment when, as you said yourself, we don't know each other.
Additionally I still don't like your sense of humor but that's really not a big deal imo.
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Cornflake wrote:
In future, report posts you think are problematic to a moderator.
No thank you.I suggest you make use of your two-week suspension, effective immediately, to gain a better understanding of acceptable behaviour on WP.
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The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
This is the bit I have a problem with.
I think you're a little bit full of yourself in your assessment when, as you said yourself, we don't know each other.
Additionally I still don't like your sense of humor but that's really not a big deal imo.
no, I don't know you. I do know the data and thd classical characteristics of bullying and cyber bullying. Why? as a youth, I was bullied and molested repeatedly. When I decided to stop being a victim, I made it my mission to understand both sides as much as possible. As an adult with children, I have had to address situations where my children experienced cyber bullying, and I made it my purpose to understand both sides as much as possible.
In no way am I "assessing" anyone. I am, however, "pointing out" the parallels and classical attributes of your responses to the attributes of bullying, which are many. what you choose to do, or not, is entirely your decision. Even if you disagree, hopefully it will give you considerations that will hopefully aid you in the future.
If I were "full of" myself, I doubt I would be trying so hard to improve myself and find kindred spirits on a website. This is the first "place" where I have ever, for the most part, felt like a normal person in the midst of others who are also normal. What you may be interpreting as "ego", I am guessing is my anxiety manifesting (via my attempts to calmly address conflict) at the possibility that such negative interactions will give the neurotypical community "fuel" when accusing the hfa community of social malfeasance.
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Toy_Soldier wrote:
If you want respect and reasonablness then give respect and be reasonable.
Just a initial impression, but I think you (FlanMaster) come on too strong to be making this complaint.
Just a initial impression, but I think you (FlanMaster) come on too strong to be making this complaint.
Do I understand correctly that you think it's justifiable for someone to willfully attempt to harm someone else if the first person thinks that the 2nd "comes on too strong", or in such case that the 2nd person has no rights to protection (self defense or otherwise) or protest when the first person willfully attacks the 2nd with intent to harm (whether emotional, physical or otherwise)? Just because you or someone else thinks a person "comes on too strong" is not justification to attack or assault that person, or anyone else.
when have I degraded, insulted, or otherwise attacked someone here? never. I have voiced a difference of opinion multiple times, and even expressed my dislike of what I felt were misconceptions or insulting but never attacked an individual, intentionally or otherwise. If I realise possible or actual insult on my part, I do my best to apologize as well as analyze in hopes of avoiding such offense in the future. Even with this thread I never Identified nor attcked anyone. But if a person Identified him/herself, I acknowledged it. The prevailing example in this thread was just the one that the other person chose to continue in this thread. And it is just that, one example of several.
Yes, I have a strong personality. Yes, I work on it daily. No, I am not proud of it. But that doesn't preclude me from having any rights, nor does it forfeit my rights when someone else decides that s/he doesn't like my mannerisms and therefore will willfully attempt to harm me.
when I was a 135 lb, 6ft tall 17year old child enlisted in the military, one night after "chow call" on my way back to my duty station, 4 masked assailants attacked me, held me down, and sodomized me, then threatened to do the same to my girlfriend if I didn't seek a transfer. This was entirely because of their hatred of my personality (their threats and conversation verified it) . If I were to obey YOUR logic, I had no right to Make a complaint. By your logic I probably didn't have the right to be sewn up and medically treated afterwards.
No, I don't believe there's any difference. one was both physically and psychologically traumatizing., the other is psychologically traumatizing enough so that a fragile enough person would attempt suicide. Some may think that ridiculous, but just consider the rising rate of suicide in response to cyber bullying.
I come to this forum to get away from the ugliness, "backstabbing", "superiority", etc. of the neurotypical world. I read the struggles and triumphs of others and gain hope. I try to interact and show (sincerely felt) sympathy and concern and try to stay within the "spirit" of each thread. That doesn't mean I will never fail, nor does it mean I'll please everyone. I will simply do my best, and apologize my best when I fail. But I refuse to just silently allow others to victimize me.
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Bonnie, The Boxer, ~2005/2006 - October 26th 2013
We love you always Bonnie. Bless God as you have blessed us.
