I love Wrong Planet but it keeps frightening me

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One thing I remembered: psychopaths are significantly less likely to have social anxiety, they tend to have really low social anxiety. This was mentioned by my prof of Atypical Development when I was doing my undergraduate degree in Psychology. Also you have a lot of empathy and feel guilt easily, you've said in previous threads. You definitely don't fit the psychopath profile.

ROAR!

Scared enough yet?

I think you can apply this anecdote to your situation:
When I was in college I was afraid to try alcohol. I was worried that I might be an angry drunk.
Then one of my friends told me, "You won't be an angry drunk, because you're worried you'll be an angry drunk. The type of person who gets mean when they drink is also the kind of person who doesn't worry about things like that."

most the shooters had other disorders that are more prone to voilence.

a for the anti Depressants. I haven't take any my self. I don't want to take any drugs, So i do it rarely. the only ones i did in last few years was antibiotics. I have known a few people who have taken them though. the doctor and you will try out a few and different does to find the right one unless you luck out right away . you or people around you will notice the side effects then just tell the doctor and work it out. they can cause, more depression, tiredness(though could have been something else she took), and some times aggression. My mom started some and it made her more conflictational . I never heard of it leading to sudden violence. yet again with the shooters they all had signs leading up to it. like with any drugs pay attention to any changes and tell your doctor

I have two reasons I don't do anxiety or depression meds. I like being in control and don't know how they will effect me. and would meds happy me really be me. o.O. 2. i really enjoy my firearms and shooting. take those meds can end with me losing my main hobby and place of enjoyment in this life. That would only make me more depressed and empty. there's not threat of me hurting myself anyways, I don't know if the same would be true under drugs or alcohol. Guess it all comes down to I want to do it myself. people lived a long time without it so will i.
but if you need or want the help do it. I know it helps a lot of people .

as fo the last bit. well up until the 50s-60s they did tend to lock those of us known to have disorders in prisons(hospitals) and pre 30s it was possible some were euthanized. now a days people acknowledge us as humans with problems but not useless. there are those on the extreme right who would love to have us gathered up and shot though, for that reason i get scared sometimes like you do. there are those on both sides who would like to see us locked up again. But for now like I said most of society is enlightened about disorders and it is improving. A large part of the us population and probably the world have one disorder or another, So I'd say we are most likely safe. though I get scared some times and just have to make those thoughts go away.

hugs.

Schizophrenia is a more likely culprit. Take a horrible medical care system and combine it with extremely easy access to firearms, and you've got a recipe for the typical American mass shooting. Suicide is the more likely outcome, though.

The fact that you will be on the lookout for that to happen would basically keep you from following through on it even if you did get that urge. Yes, they warn people that antidepressants can make them more depressed or violence prone, but those people who do it tend to forget about that side effect at the time. It's not like it's sudden, out of the blue, and you totally in another world. I was on an antidepressant once that made me very suicidal. It started slowly and I knew to watch out for anything like that, and it just kept getting worse. I had it all planned out in my head how to do it and was starting to plan a time to do it, and this way would have worked too, when I remembered "Oh yeah, this isn't real, it's from the meds" so I called my doctor and told her I'm not taking any more of them and insisted that she finally go ahead and give me the ones that do work for me. She's one of those who will not give you what you ask her for, ever. She made me try all these other ones before she gave me the ones that worked for me in the past. You'll notice it creeping up on you before anything major changes. Just keep an eye out for that and let the doctor know if you start feeling worse.

Also, if you haven't noticed, I'm pretty violence prone anyway. If antidepressants didn't make me act on something, then I really doubt they will do that to you. The fact that you are conscious of that reaction would be the very thing that stopped you from doing it if you get that way on them.

As for all the other crap about concentration camps and stuff, that's just people running off at the mouth about paranoid BS that isn't going to happen. Persecution complex type s**t. The whole "Woe is me, they hate me because I'm an aspie so they are going to come up with a final solution" BS. Ignore those people. Thats the same type of s**t as telling us that a meteor is going to hit the earth next week or something. It's all conspiracy theory kind of s**t, and that's exactly what it is, s**t.

I know you say you believe it and get scared, but I'd advise you to completely disbelieve anything you read here that isn't also told on your 6:00 news on TV or in the for real newspaper. Most people who say that kind of thing here are just expressing their opinion as fact, when it's not. Anything overboard or too extreme is just somebody flapping their jaws about something they don't know anything about. Remind yourself of that when you read something crazy on here like that.

I've noticed one thing about you though, that I want to point out. You will believe the bad stuff about the world, about other people, and about yourself too, but you seem to completely brush aside any of the good things. People (including me) have said some really good things about you on here, and it's like you don't believe us, or don't think it's worth considering. I'm not saying this to try and make you feel bad for not saying thank you or something, I'm saying this because I think that you tend to ignore anything good about yourself and focus only on the things you think are bad. I'm wondering if that might not be contributing to your low self esteem. Could you maybe find one good thing about yourself every morning and when you start to feel down on yourself during the day, remind yourself of that one good thing and force yourself to think about it for a little while instead of the bad things? If you make it a different thing every day, it won't get boring and old really fast. Plus, looking for the good things in yourself could help you start to notice them more.

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Thank you for the replies.

I know I can be over-empathetic, and that is sometimes annoying. I find it so hard to be in an authoritative position because I am worrying too much about the other person's feelings, and almost anything can make me feel bad. I want people to run free and be as happy as they can be, but that can't happen to everybody because there has to be some structure, so telling people what to do may not make everyone happy but it has to be done. Like when I had work experience in a preschool when I was 17, I know that if I was the only adult there to be in charge of all the kids, I would most probably let them get away with murder (no, not literally, (the scary M-word).... ), all because I am too afraid of telling them what to do and being the ''boss''. I'm always afraid that if I tell them what to do it might intimidate them, so I want to be kind instead and let them do as they wish. But you can't be like that when you have a whole big group of vulnerable humans that need structure and boundaries. Sometimes you've got to be a bit ruthless (I don't mean in a nasty way, I just mean sometimes you've got to not sit there and worry about how they're feeling all the time, you've got to sometimes be a bit ruthless, in an appropriate way of course).

And about the listening to bad things but disbelieving the good things. That is due to low self-esteem. I've always tended to listen to the bad things I read or hear, probably because I'm a pessimist. I think it's because I don't have that much faith in life, I think fate is against me and that I'm often in the wrong place at the wrong times. I'm not sure if it's really happening to me, or if it's just because I focus too much on bad things and turn them into bigger problems. I think it's just anxiety. If somebody told me that it's going to snow all winter, I hate the snow so I will panic and go ''oh my God 4 months of snow, ice and freezing temperatures, what do I do what do I do???'' But if somebody told me that this summer is going to be one big long heatwave, I love the sunshine so I'll probably look at them and go ''4 months of heat? I'll believe it when I see it, otherwise I will not get my hopes up yet.'' I have been told that if you think pessimistically, you won't be as disappointed if the worst happens, and if the good happens you will be pleasently surprised.

Consider the source of the information. Are the people who post that stuff trained mental health professionals with in-depth knowledge of the side effects of medication? I wouldn't believe anything anybody on this site said about mental health stuff.

Well, as it turns out, my friend killed herself because she was OFF medication. They had taken her OFF her antidepressants at the rehab she had been in three or four weeks before and told her she can't ever take any psychoactive drug again. She wasn't suicidal when she was on them. They had also taken her off her pain meds and she had recently had hip surgery. They convinced her that taking pain meds for a legitimate reason was nothing more than "getting high". Yeah, like a 7.5 mg lortab for somebody who had just had major bone surgery is not needed. ::eyeroll::

So, while some antidepressants CAN cause you to get more depressed or even violent, it's more likely they won't do anything at all and you just won't feel anything either way. I've tried many, many antidepressants before we found what worked for me, and that one egotistical doctor in West Blocton made me try a bunch more that SHE picked before she would give me the ones I told her to give me, and only one of those had a bad effect and that was Celexa. The rest of them just did nothing at all, and I stayed on them a whole month each before she would let me switch, except for the Celexa and that was two weeks and I was planning my death when I realized why I was feeling that way and stopped taking it and felt better within a few days. I just had to lay there and deal with my feelings until it all got out of my system but it wasn't that hard because I knew that it was the drugs, even though I actually FELT suicidal.

As long as you keep in mind that any urges you get for suicide or violence are from the meds, you'll be ok and won't act on them. It's when people either don't look out for that side effect or when they don't know about it that they go through with things. It's not like it makes you forget that it can do it. Also, it's usually only at first when it happens, so if you get over the first month or so with them you can pretty much rest easy. The most that will happen is after a few years they won't work as well and then you either have a trial of being off them to see if it comes back or try something else if it does come back.

The best thing I've ever found for anxiety though, is Xanax. Antidepressants never helped me with that. Then again, I had panic disorder and agoraphobia at the time and didn't leave the house alone for two years and had a panic attack when I left it even with somebody. Dr's don't want to prescribe Xanax long term because it is physically addicting and has a high potential for abuse, but you also have to remember that at the time I was afraid of any meds and took the minimum I could take and there was no way I'd abuse it back then. I was on them for over a year and when the panic attacks were gone completely, I stayed on it another month just to be sure and then tapered off the dose and just stopped taking it. It's the drug of choice for anxiety and it stops it within 15 minutes, even a full blown panic attack. I had 1mg pills, (those little blue footballs) and I would just break them in half and take a half a mg. I'd only take a whole one if I was having a panic attack. Oddly enough, knowing that I had the Xanax in my purse kept me from having panic attacks after a while. Knowing that the relief is right there kept me from getting panicky. Weird, huh?

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Its very unlikely you are going to develop sudden irresistable urges to break into a school and kill everyone in sight, and people with autism are not more likely to do so than the average person....are you concerned because you have wanted to do something like that or because you heard people with aspergers are more likely?

Also I don't think there will be concentration camps specifically for people with aspergers....unfortunately sometimes this country seems to be moving towards a sort of facism but in the chance the government did decide to start rounding people up it wouldn't be specifically people with AS probably anyone they deem not 'contributing' but I do not think there are any plans for that kind of thing. So it would be best not to worry too much about it....at this point its a hypothetical not something that is happening or will for sure happen. Also while there is ignorance and discrimination towards people with autism there are plenty of other groups of people that face that as well, but its not like everyone in society discriminates on the basis of having autism.

As for anti depressants it is true some people do not react well to them, and they can sometimes increase suicidal/homocidal thoughts especially in adolecents....what that means is caution needs to be taken and the persons mood and how they feel on that medication needs to be monitered to make sure its helping rather than hurting. For instance if I am on an anti depressant and it is making me feel worse I talk to the psychiatrist and get off of it. I've had anti-depressants contribute to suicidal feelings and anxiety, and am afraid to start one I was supposed to have already started because of that but I have heard of plenty of people who find them helpful.

There is a fair chance this worry/anxiety problem could be reduced by medications. I had similar anxiety and meds definitely helped me, and dramatically. But I never felt changed or different personality-wise with meds. At most I felt tired, or a little more spacey (then usual ), or extra energized, and that was always in the beginning, and it faded as my body adjusted to it. You won't suddenly change into a different person. You will always be just Joe, that wouldn't hurt a fly.

In general, its best to avoid subjects (or in this context, thread titles) that you think might disturb you. You might find that you can handle more subjects with meds, without being unduly disturbed (as I did) or you may simply avoid them indefinitely. Another suggestion is to also join a forum with upbeat or at least neutral subject matter. WP is good in many ways, but does often lean to the depressing side, due to the nature of what people tend to talk about. Special interest sites tend to be better in that respect.