Why he was found hanging from a tree

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suicides make me feel sad...sometimes even angry...and I'm not even sure what I am angry at...

That's definitely a good thought. Just don't think of her.

You got banned and made up another username with the word jaguar in it, didn't you?

Precisely.

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I dont feel sorry for people who commit suicide. Life is the most precious thing god can grant you and if the person cant take the heat, he doesn't deserve to live, "if theres a will theres a way". Who I do feel sorry for is the family, relatives, and friends, thats just sad that the guy could be so selfish and not try to figure out a way to solve his problems. I mean if the guy is that miserable, get a divorce, move to tibet and strive to find inner peace, there are so many options other than killing yourself.

Please go away.

I don't feel sorry for them either - especially if they manage it with dignity, and not from pain. I want nothing more anylonger than to choose my own death, in beauty and perfection. I had one chance, but let it pass; I hope I get another.

Well, the first part of this post shows ignorance about depression and suicide...

And then makes the most obvious and sane suggestion: if the guy is suffering, GET OUT. Divorce her, leave, take what's his, and start over.

Have some compassion, respect, and love for himself. This is a dysfunctional relationship on both sides. No boundaries. No respect. Just sour and sharp feelings and hopelessness.

Hell, a no fault divorce is what? 250 dollars, if one files on one's own?

And change the cell phone number when he leaves. I've known three guys who left their wives/girlfriend, and forgot to change the cell, and then had to put up with harassing calls, or erasing them from his phone.

There's got to be a better life out in the world for this guy than putting up with this. The dude needs some help before he gets into another relationship, or he'll end up in the exact same mess.

Good luck to your friend, Remnant.

I meant this in a more general sense, because someone who I know of actually hanged himself. The misogynist tone is there, of course, and it's about women driving men crazy, but you can apply this to men driving women crazy also. Unfortunately, it is usually the female of the pair who does that. There will be all sorts of exceptions. I think that sometimes the female of a couple leaves the male with no choice but to make some choices that she won't like. One thing that I had in mind was someone who lived in a cheap trailer and her husband traveled around the state working fifteen hours a day, and they still couldn't keep up with the rent because she smoked up all the money. In the relationship that I am in, it's not quite that bad but it's frustrating as hell and I have other frustrations that I internalize too much.

I have agree with dime_jaguar's position on this. Suicide was the easy, bulls**t way out. And if the wife didn't respect him when he was alive, she sure as hell doesn't respect him now for not being able to cope with life. The right choice, and the most difficult one, would have been to get a divorce, move away, get on with life, and try to find happiness.

I was in a very similar relationship for three years. It was my first relationship and I didn't know any better. We never married, thank god, but the way things were going we would have certainly turned out like your story. Leaving her was the hardest thing I've ever done and it was totally worth it.

as long as you are conscious when you do it, suicide is not easy. I know from personal experience.



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Sins is right. It hurts. A lot. If you have any fear of pain, that should be enough to stop you.

Of course its hard to end your life, but obviously not as hard/difficult/frustrating as it is to live another day. Im not trying to say these people arent in pain, just that there are sooo many things you could do to change your life. Best thing to do is to move to a whole new place, if you have no money well than work with the expectancy of being happy in due time, but to end your life?!?!?!?!

So exactly how did she earn the right to treat him like that, torture him, mess up his life, and then judge him unfit to live?

He let her, and what I mean by unfit to live, thats a bit harsh but you get the point, IS that if he cant get himself out of a bad relationship and attempt to better his life, he's definitely not living anyway.

But she does have an obligation to contribute something to the relationship.