Worried about what will happen in mankind's future

Page 2 of 2 [ 24 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Hopper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Aug 2012
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,920
Location: The outskirts

31 Dec 2015, 4:56 pm

K_Kelly wrote:
Well, people can't stop it, corporations can't stop it, not even God himself can stop it. What we are witnessing before our very eyes is the rapid advancement of technology and artificial intelligence. Damn you, Ray Kurzweil, for being so seemingly infallible. I am so terrified at the thought that I only have a relatively short time to enjoy my biological self and this organic world, before we all choose to have to upgrade our being and personality. I'm losing my motivation to achieve. What makes me more terrified is the fact that the singularity is unavoidable. I wish to die and be taken to a better place where I can finally be at peace, before it's too late and the technological singularity has already happened. Nobody is even allowed to say it's impossible anymore.


Is this where we're supposed to turn into computer programs or something? I think that'll be a way off yet.

Besides, I don't think I'd get on very well with someone who wanted to turn themselves into a computer program. In which case, come the time, they'll have pissed off into the electro-ether, and those who don't want to do so will have more elbow room.


_________________
Of course, it's probably quite a bit more complicated than that.

You know sometimes, between the dames and the horses, I don't even know why I put my hat on.


Ardentmisanthrope23
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

Joined: 3 Dec 2015
Posts: 178
Location: England UK

29 Jan 2016, 7:44 am

Being human is overrated, If I was converted to synthetic life, I don't think I'd be bothered about losing my humanity.

The ability to upgrade my senses? Yes, thank you. Possibly thinking faster than the cleverest human ever has? Yes, please. Functional immortality? On balance, yes please.

I think the perception altering implications would make (post)humans much better people than homo sapiens ever have been, up to now. We would still be people, just very different, and what is wrong with that? I am different, anyway, to most people. Why should I care about being human or not?

Who the heck wants to be stuck as a fragile ape for 100 years tops, when you can be so much more?


_________________
Tend to be blunt, tend to put my foot in my mouth, I am probably the smartest idiot you'll ever meet. And a bit of a cynic.

But I care. A lot.
(My username is "tongue in cheek" BTW)


ProbablyOverthinkingThisUsername
Raven
Raven

Joined: 24 Sep 2015
Age: 33
Posts: 124
Location: Wisconsin

29 Jan 2016, 8:29 am

I wouldn't count on strong AI any time soon. The field hasn't really advanced so much as it's found new ways to apply the same tricks to give the appearance of independent thought. My concern would be more along the lines of someone with nefarious goals getting access to a sufficiently powerful weak AI.

Likewise with all the post-human stuff, it all sounds well and good until you realize what a security risk that stuff poses. If someone manages to hack into your computer, sure they might be able to pull off some identity theft but it doesn't endanger you directly. Whereas, if someone gets into your fancy brain implants... they could pull all sorts of nastiness. I think once people realize this, the idea would become much less appealing.

If you're really concerned, try and think of something you can do about it, that always helps. Write and publish a book warning about the dangers of this stuff, or consider going into the burgeoning space industry (which might give future generations a place to run).



Ardentmisanthrope23
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

Joined: 3 Dec 2015
Posts: 178
Location: England UK

23 Feb 2016, 5:18 am

For strong AI of the "person" variety it would need to be a massively parallel self contained "brain" in a locomotive chassis(not necessarily humanoid), and sensory lattices impregnated into the surface connected through atomic sized routers(equivalent to nerve clusters). The unit would be a closed system. Although that can be hacked by external interfacing.

In some ways so can a human brain....

Always connected strong AI, interacting with others of it's kind, would go nuts with dissociative qualia. It wouldn't know who it is....


_________________
Tend to be blunt, tend to put my foot in my mouth, I am probably the smartest idiot you'll ever meet. And a bit of a cynic.

But I care. A lot.
(My username is "tongue in cheek" BTW)


auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,264
Location: the island of defective toy santas

26 Feb 2016, 4:54 am

how close are we to robotics/AI sufficiently advanced to where we have to implement Asimov's 3 laws?



Ardentmisanthrope23
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker

Joined: 3 Dec 2015
Posts: 178
Location: England UK

31 Oct 2017, 7:04 pm

Minimum self aware ai...20 years. More likely 50 years... True androids, maybe 100 years.


_________________
Tend to be blunt, tend to put my foot in my mouth, I am probably the smartest idiot you'll ever meet. And a bit of a cynic.

But I care. A lot.
(My username is "tongue in cheek" BTW)


auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 115,264
Location: the island of defective toy santas

31 Oct 2017, 10:02 pm

I thought that the year 2142 was a bit too optimistic [by about a century] for that movie "AI."



Boourns
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

Joined: 10 Apr 2017
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Posts: 32
Location: UK

01 Nov 2017, 5:03 am

I wouldn't be too worried about robots or androids just yet. I also wouldn't be too concerned about meaningful progress to transhumanism just yet either (at least until we get quantum computing properly figured out - to the best of my knowledge, it took the best part of a decade before those fancy new 64bit processors were actually capable of being used as advertised and quantum computing -a closer analogue( :wink: ) to how the mammalian brain functions- is a significantly more complicated change).

Like nuclear fusion, the development to a 'singularity' isn't guaranteed, but surely it would be beneficial to everyone? Anyway, I don't think that such worries are currently rational. I think therefore that there must be other reasons that you may be losing motivation. Try to consider what you would like to achieve and what your first step towards that might be. Additionally, what has happened recently that you would consider to be 'good'?