Retconsidering My Sexual Orientation

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25 Aug 2008, 12:45 pm

I am still waiting for Timmy's opinion.

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I don't have an opinion on gay dreams, or do I?



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25 Aug 2008, 1:15 pm

ohh snap :P



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25 Aug 2008, 11:33 pm

:lmao: I remember you making some nasty homophobic comments ages a go. I have the opinion that people that do that are not comfortable with their own sexuallity.

There is nothing wrong with being gay or bi, that is how you are. Also yes I think it is spectrim I don't think anybody is 100% gay or 100% straight. If you decide you are bi or slightly bi it isn't a big deal.



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26 Aug 2008, 7:26 am

I am very comfortable with my heterosexuality. That's why these homoerotic dreams are so puzzling. They do, however, give me some understanding of what it must be like to be homosexual. What a valuable experience ...



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26 Aug 2008, 7:55 am

I believe I remember that, in typical dream intepretation analysis, dreams which are sexual or erotic are usually more about identifying with the anima or animus rather than actually having sex. In other words, if I dream that I am kissing or fondling another woman, it represents my desire to be/act more feminine, or to become emotionally closer to females in my life, rather than my desire to actually have sex with a woman in real life.

If a cigar is not always just a cigar, a penis is not always just a penis, either.

Maybe it's just all the talk about it on these forums that is affecting you. Maybe your subconscious is working at coming to terms with it.



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26 Aug 2008, 8:19 am

This is just speculation, but I find it interesting that God would condemn people for acting on a nature which He created them with (or does Satan put that nature into them?) In any event, it shows how the idea of there being "someone out there for everyone" is BS even in a Biblical sense. Because, logically, if God created someone for everyone, that would include gays too... so why would He command them to eternal celibacy?



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26 Aug 2008, 8:37 am

These are very well-travelled questions.



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26 Aug 2008, 11:57 am

there are many theories circulating about the why of homosexuality. Why would the human species be so different in biological behaviour than th eanimal species. We all know that the Bonobos ( primates closest related to humans, more than chimps) have thier entire society and political organisation ruled by sex. They practise polygamy, polyandry, lesbian and gay, bisexual, incest and even pedohelia.
Desmond Morris, the English biolgist believes that homosexuality is a compensation by mother nature to keep the balance when there are too many births already, therefor more homosexual behaviour...

but I was told one can do anything as long as you do it with unconditiional love. Maybe some detail her: the original Church allowed priests to get married to each other...


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26 Aug 2008, 1:27 pm

Some factions of the Church allow their clergy to marry whiile some do not.

And I agree with Desmond Morris' theory of homosexuality as a subtle form of population control.



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26 Aug 2008, 1:28 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Some factions of the Church allow their clergy to marry whiile some do not.

And I agree with Desmond Morris' theory of homosexuality as a subtle form of population control.
I meant priests (male) with priests


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26 Aug 2008, 1:37 pm

Priests marrying priests? Hmm, sounds like a homosexual fantasy to me.



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26 Aug 2008, 1:39 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Priests marrying priests? Hmm, sounds like a homosexual fantasy to me.

it was the arcahic church, no fantasy but that was possible before the Vatican was established


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26 Aug 2008, 1:54 pm

Phagocyte wrote:
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I don't believe that ANYONE is 100% straight or gay. Most people are just closer to one end of the spectrum or the other. There's a little (or a lot) of bisexuality in all of us, and I see no reason why anyone should be ashamed of that.


I have absolutely no problem with homosexuality or bisexuality, but I don't agree that sexuality is a spectrum. I am not attracted to males in the least bit, and I never once doubted my heterosexuality. I'm not doubting that it isn't a spectrum in some people, but I do not see the evidence that human sexuality as a whole is a variable spectrum.

I have wondered about that, there are few ideas in which all make sense, but which one is exactly the most accurate? The population control makes sense, although there are some other things to consider, when it comes to being a spectrum or not.

Many of the stuff we as heterosexual men like about women are social constructs, I think that the difference between femenine and masculine are partly artificial, examples: long hair, make-up, dresses, skirts, clothes, perfumes, shaven legs, shaven armpits, I have heard before that a woman with hairy armpits looked masculine, but then, that it is natural, doesn't it? how a woman naturally could be masculine? How attractive we would find a woman with very short hair, a man's hairstyle, without wearing make-up and dressed with man's clothes? That plus the gender roles on behaviour in some cultures. That raises the question of how attraction works, as it seems we are greatly influenced by these social and artificial constructs, which it seems to make a more notable difference, than nature would.


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26 Aug 2008, 2:24 pm

dont worry sm, i have far stranger dreams than yours. like im a pregnant women, yet i dont question my identity



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26 Aug 2008, 3:08 pm

nightbender wrote:
dont worry sm, i have far stranger dreams than yours. like im a pregnant women, yet i dont question my identity

I had a dream once in which I dropped my penis on the floor, I had to go pee the way women do from that point. Yes, it was very weird. That was a long time ago.


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26 Aug 2008, 4:14 pm

Loborojo wrote:
slowmutant wrote:
Priests marrying priests? Hmm, sounds like a homosexual fantasy to me.

it was the arcahic church, no fantasy but that was possible before the Vatican was established


Marriage between priests in "the archaic church" you say? And would this marriage imply sexually active homosexual priests engaged in buggery? No, no and no.

See, I tolerate homosexuality but I do not promote it.