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24 Jun 2018, 1:18 pm

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And I want to add that the way some regulars gang up on someone who is struggling really amounts to plain old bullying. I'm sick of it. It's not just in this thread - I see it elsewhere as well.

Try to imagine what the other person is going through. (That's called empathy.)


Hey he asked for it. Like I said, its his pan handling, bad manners, and lack of a good grasp on reality.

What I think should happen is that the government should take care of him, and I don't mean throwing him a bone every month. I would have no problem whatsoever with my tax money used to provide him with the medicine he needs and a room to sleep in. Its a far better use than maintaining an aging and useless nuclear stockpile.


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24 Jun 2018, 2:27 pm

RainbowUnion wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
And I want to add that the way some regulars gang up on someone who is struggling really amounts to plain old bullying. I'm sick of it. It's not just in this thread - I see it elsewhere as well.

Try to imagine what the other person is going through. (That's called empathy.)


Hey he asked for it. Like I said, its his pan handling, bad manners, and lack of a good grasp on reality.

What I think should happen is that the government should take care of him, and I don't mean throwing him a bone every month. I would have no problem whatsoever with my tax money used to provide him with the medicine he needs and a room to sleep in. Its a far better use than maintaining an aging and useless nuclear stockpile.


In the immortal words of bullies everywhere:
Hey he asked for it.
Nobody asked for it.
Avoid that which annoys you, for whatever reason.



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24 Jun 2018, 2:46 pm

Claradoon wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
And I want to add that the way some regulars gang up on someone who is struggling really amounts to plain old bullying. I'm sick of it. It's not just in this thread - I see it elsewhere as well.

Try to imagine what the other person is going through. (That's called empathy.)


Hey he asked for it. Like I said, its his pan handling, bad manners, and lack of a good grasp on reality.

What I think should happen is that the government should take care of him, and I don't mean throwing him a bone every month. I would have no problem whatsoever with my tax money used to provide him with the medicine he needs and a room to sleep in. Its a far better use than maintaining an aging and useless nuclear stockpile.


In the immortal words of bullies everywhere:
Hey he asked for it.
Nobody asked for it.
Avoid that which annoys you, for whatever reason.


I guess we have a different def of bullying. Mine does not include calling people out for continuing locked threads in violation of forum rules, panhandling in a place not made for that, or simply telling the delusional truths they don't like hearing.


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24 Jun 2018, 10:29 pm

Sometimes people only read a small portion of what is happening and make judgement calls based on limited knowledge and understanding of what all is going on. Also known as jumping to conclusions.



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25 Jun 2018, 12:56 pm

Claradoon wrote:
RainbowUnion wrote:
BeaArthur wrote:
And I want to add that the way some regulars gang up on someone who is struggling really amounts to plain old bullying. I'm sick of it. It's not just in this thread - I see it elsewhere as well.

Try to imagine what the other person is going through. (That's called empathy.)


Hey he asked for it. Like I said, its his pan handling, bad manners, and lack of a good grasp on reality.

What I think should happen is that the government should take care of him, and I don't mean throwing him a bone every month. I would have no problem whatsoever with my tax money used to provide him with the medicine he needs and a room to sleep in. Its a far better use than maintaining an aging and useless nuclear stockpile.


In the immortal words of bullies everywhere:
Hey he asked for it.
Nobody asked for it.
Avoid that which annoys you, for whatever reason.


I'm a mod. I can't allow members to spam the forum with the same topics over and over again, nor can I allow them to become abusive towards the user base. And this has been going on for years.

If, in the course of my job, I have to ask pointed questions as a means of sussing out the what's really going on, then that's just what has to happen. That's not "bullying," and I don't have the luxury of simply ignoring behavior I find questionable.


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25 Jun 2018, 1:51 pm

Well Mod, I'm glad to see you.

My hope is that you'll better define The Haven.
I thought it's a place where members are accepted in spite of their own perceived reality.

This is the place to go where you are a mismatch for the rest of humanity. It is accepted and respected that you are not "normal." The OP doesn't have to attain to societal standards.

My cousin was schizophrenic and hidden by her parents out of fear of social services. When they passed, my Mom took over. She picked her moment and, in gentle and sorrowful tones, said to J, "Do you know that I don't see that man?" J knew. That being accepted, our family accepted different realities for different people, while remaining in our own identities.

It is the judgement in the last few posts that upsets me a lot.



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25 Jun 2018, 4:22 pm

...I lost TWO drafts :cry: :cry: . I put in all this effort for replies which no-one ever sees :cry: - because of hiccups with this phone and especially this board :cry:! I was just coughing :( .


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25 Jun 2018, 5:43 pm

My feeling is that ASS-P has a place here. I believe he can be entertaining if he talks about his past life. We can learn lots from ASS-P. He's a very intelligent guy. He sometimes doesn't edit his posts for various reasons---some of which I don't know.

But ASS-P has to stop getting abusive with people who don't give him the "right advice." People try. People might not "understand" ASS-P. They might not understand, fully, what it means to be homeless. But, still.....ASS-P should educate, rather than get all bent out of shape. That's my opinion.

Claradoon's post rang a bell. There were MANY people who were "hidden" because they had disabilities up to even the 1970s, probably. I could have actually been one of those people. Luckily, my mother saw something in me, and decided not to institutionalize me when I was about 3 years old.



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25 Jun 2018, 5:49 pm

I mean....the guy makes me laugh sometimes. He can be pretty witty.

I hope he doesn't go away.

But he has to understand that there are people who are not in his shoes, and don't really understand his situation (like me sometimes). Give them the benefit of the doubt.



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25 Jun 2018, 6:06 pm

I like Claradoon very much. I don't want her upset with me.

She's a lively, funny woman. Very smart.

And if she says something.....it's usually right.



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25 Jun 2018, 6:34 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I like Claradoon very much. I don't want her upset with me.

She's a lively, funny woman. Very smart.

And if she says something.....it's usually right.

Thank you! It's mutual.

My recent post on Fathers' Day got closed (locked?) because it 'crossed a line.'

That set me thinking of how free I have been here and how much healing has been the result.

I think the Mod in my own post said there must be a place where we can talk like that but this isn't it.

It might have been my excessive use of words related to death.

But should I have to hide my feelings even at WP? That was the first time I spoke the plain truth about him, even with psychologists. Always I (and others) use camouflage words. My life has been unhappy because of him. Are you kidding? That has all the emotion of melting Jello. Look towards Hawaii; see the volcano? That's how I feel; that's what I've been carrying around all my life; that's what I've been expressing politely.

Am I the only one? What other things are never said?

Could we make healthy use of a Forum called THE CAVE ? Warnings, open to members only, moderated by somebody very experienced in the awful life.

How many of us have been carrying around a load of the unspeakable?



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25 Jun 2018, 6:36 pm

Probably most people here.....

And perhaps even most people in the world.



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25 Jun 2018, 6:38 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I like Claradoon very much. I don't want her upset with me.

She's a lively, funny woman. Very smart.

And if she says something.....it's usually right.

So? When do you arrive?



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25 Jun 2018, 6:40 pm

I hope soon :)



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25 Jun 2018, 6:50 pm

re proposed forum The Cave - how about not moderated?

Or rather, moderated by poll.
"Should this thread be locked? Y/N"

Majority rules.

"Why" would have to be a separate thread because of probable length.



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25 Jun 2018, 8:47 pm

Hey ASS-P:

I promise I won't use any of your stories in my writing. In fact, what you write here is actually "published" in a sense. You can print out what you wrote, and get it copyrighted, so that no one could steal your ideas.

I'm a good-enough writer not to take somebody else's ideas without permission.