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16 Nov 2020, 9:45 pm

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^^^pardon me but i will admit i sure hope that somehow you and the OP can compare notes.


Yeah, they could both play cards and chat about the women they’re interested in.


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16 Nov 2020, 9:53 pm

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I'm not great at making friends in general. I have a hard time knowing what to talk about and generally how to interact with unfamiliar people (and sometimes even familiar people), so as a result I've largely withdrawn and tend to rarely initiate interactions and only respond when others initiate.


Well, I think we have found your starting point. 8)
When I was around your age, I did a hobby communications course.
I think you should do the same, when the vaccine comes along.

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The only times I tend to come into contact with young women are rarely through friends of friends and sometimes at the trivia I co-host, though they generally already have male company.


Auties generally don't have good coordination, but have you considered dancing classes?
You have a job. You can afford them.

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The challenge I have with the hobbies/interest group stuff is that there doesn't seem to be much overlap between the few hobbies I might actually be interested in doing for the sake of doing them (for instance chess or card games) and things that young women seem likely to be drawn to.


Erm. Isn't your special interest looking for female companionship?
Leonard Hofstadter, from The Big Bang Theory, *always* did what Penny wanted to do.
Penny even stole his chips that he saved for later, and he didn't mind. :mrgreen:
Look at the bigger picture. :wink:

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If I was to go to any of the groups you mentioned, I wouldn't be going because I had any interest in the hobby itself. The entirety of my reason for going would be to realise ulterior motives, and I don't know that that's a good idea.


Everyone does it.
Do you think I want to sit here and type to you? :scratch:
No. I want to establish a relationship with you and *then* get into your pants, when the pandemic is over. :mrgreen:



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16 Nov 2020, 9:56 pm

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It's true that, in the not-so-long ago past, husbands and wives used to form very formidable bridge teams (alluding to your hobby of playing cards).

How about joining a bridge club?


I think he will have to cross that bridge, when he comes to it. <boom tish> :mrgreen:



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16 Nov 2020, 9:59 pm

Yes grand inquisitor. I would love to learn more about chess. And play cards. I am very competitive but have good sportsmanship. You can talk to me about the girls you are interested in and I can give advice and be a "wing-man" :) Girls are complicated but at the same time were not, we just got a hard time trusting. :| Other than that we are loyal companions. And unlike most I don't like drama. So friends? :smile:


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16 Nov 2020, 10:01 pm

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Yes Pepe, girls make amazing friends. I mean we get emotional, but when a girl cares for you we are willing to fight that girls that are giving you problems. Plus we are better at "wing-man" than most guys. (trust me on that)


TGI having a female friend/companion, when he goes to places, would make TGI more attractive.
This is human nature.
People want what other people have, sort of thing.
Go figure. ;)



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16 Nov 2020, 10:03 pm

Lmao Pepe, you cant say that XD


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16 Nov 2020, 10:05 pm

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Yes grand inquisitor. I would love to learn more about chess. And play cards. I am very competitive but have good sportsmanship. You can talk to me about the girls you are interested in and I can give advice and be a "wing-man" :) Girls are complicated but at the same time were not, we just got a hard time trusting. :| Other than that we are loyal companions. And unlike most I don't like drama. So friends? :smile:


Exactly. Girls can be very loyal companions, just like a labrador. :mrgreen:

It is your choice.
A girl, or a labrador.
Labradors are cheaper, though. :mrgreen:



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16 Nov 2020, 10:07 pm

i hope the OP is reading this thread still.



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16 Nov 2020, 10:10 pm

auntblabby wrote:
i hope the OP is reading this thread still.


I bet your left testicle that he will respond sooner, rather than later. 8)



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16 Nov 2020, 10:15 pm

How dare you Pepe. I am way cheaper. I am not indecisive. I know what I want right now. All you have to do for a girl is feed her and give her attention. :D Oh and say goodbye to your wardrobe. It's either take them shopping or you will have no clothes of your own. (Learned this the hard way) XD Still fighting for my clothes back. She got my hoodies, joggers,sweats, things I'm not allowed to say. Oh and attention. If you ignore her she gonna make you pay attention :') Was in the middle of a match :') Well we aren't cheap but heaped than.... Nvm I forgot about the chocolate to buy Lmao the list can go on. We are expensive :)

Pepe, XD really Lol


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16 Nov 2020, 10:21 pm

Make a goal to enjoy all of your life, and make girls part of it.



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16 Nov 2020, 10:29 pm

HighVamp913 wrote:
How dare you Pepe.


I dare. 8)
I'm the kool skunk, remember?

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I am way cheaper.


Well, then you are the exception. 8O

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I am not indecisive. I know what I want right now. All you have to do for a girl is feed her and give her attention. :D Oh and say goodbye to your wardrobe. It's either take them shopping or you will have no clothes of your own. (Learned this the hard way) XD Still fighting for my clothes back. She got my hoodies, joggers,sweats, things I'm not allowed to say. Oh and attention. If you ignore her she gonna make you pay attention :') Was in the middle of a match :') Well we aren't cheap but heaped than.... Nvm I forgot about the chocolate to buy Lmao the list can go on. We are expensive :)

Pepe, XD really Lol


Told you. :P

And labradors can't eat chocolate.
It is very harmful to dogs.

I rest my case, me Lord. 8)



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17 Nov 2020, 7:14 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's true that, in the not-so-long ago past, husbands and wives used to form very formidable bridge teams (alluding to your hobby of playing cards).

How about joining a bridge club?

My therapist suggested the same thing.

I've never played bridge, but I've heard that it shares some similarities with 500, and I've been playing 500 since I was like 6 years old.

I'm not opposed to the idea of giving bridge a go, but I can't imagine that there'd be a lot of young women who play it.
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Did you say chess and card games?!? I love chess and card games. I am a rookie at chess , but I love to play cards. I'm not talking bout gold fish. Nah I mean Rummy, Palace, Gin Rummy, and Black Jack. I am willing to learn new games. Well more than willing.

I'm not an expert at chess and I haven't dedicated the time to study the game, but I have played more than 5,000 games on chess.com since I started my account in 2012. In the category I generally play in, apparently my rating is in the 90th percentile of all chess.com players.

I was brought up on a card-playing family, so I've been playing for a long time. The games we tend to play are 500, pontoon (blackjack) and hearts, though we also sometimes play other games.



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17 Nov 2020, 7:52 am

Pepe wrote:
Well, I think we have found your starting point. 8)
When I was around your age, I did a hobby communications course.
I think you should do the same, when the vaccine comes along.

That's an intriguing suggestion. I'm not really familiar with what a communications course has to offer. What knowledge and skills are you supposed to develop from it?

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Auties generally don't have good coordination, but have you considered dancing classes?
You have a job. You can afford them.

This has also been suggested to me by a couple of people in the past. I'm self-conscious about the way I dance, because I get the impression that it comes across as 'autistic'. I get the feeling that if I did rock up to a dance class, the women there would actively avoid me.

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Erm. Isn't your special interest looking for female companionship?

If it is, I'm doing a pretty bad job.

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Leonard Hofstadter, from The Big Bang Theory, *always* did what Penny wanted to do.
Penny even stole his chips that he saved for later, and he didn't mind. :mrgreen:
Look at the bigger picture. :wink:

I think that's a bit different. They're already in a relationship, where I'm trying to establish one. I'd think that doing something you don't really care for to appease someone you care about is different to doing something you don't really care for in the hopes of finding a partner. Additionally, if I'm meeting women at a hobby group for a hobby I don't care for, I'd think we probably wouldn't have a lot of commonalities to connect over.

Moreover, honestly, I'm at the point where I fundamentally lack confidence that anything I can do has any real chance of yielding me positive romantic results. If I go and do things that I don't enjoy in the hopes of establishing romantic connections or even just making female friends and it doesn't work out, I'm going to resent the fact that I wasted my time doing something I didn't want to do. At least if I'm participating in hobbies that I enjoy, I won't be as inclined to feel like I sunk my time in a fruitless endeavour.

All that said, I probably shouldn't be so hasty to dismiss the idea of trying new things, or things that I wouldn't normally do, but I seem to have an inclination to stick with what is familiar, and it probably isn't serving me here. Out of the hobby/interest groups you suggested, I find some more objectionable than others, so maybe I should make a list of possible things to try and then derive a short-list of the things I'd be most interested in/find least objectionable.

The elephant in the room is my complete lack of confidence in my ability to attract and interact with women in a social setting. I think that's what is really making me not want to bother doing anything, and I don’t really know how to neutralise it, given that it's a well-founded concern. If I felt like I at least had a chance of achieving a favourable outcome, whether that meant getting a girlfriend, getting a date or making some female friends, I'd probably be more inclined to put myself out there.

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Everyone does it.
Do you think I want to sit here and type to you? :scratch:
No. I want to establish a relationship with you and *then* get into your pants, when the pandemic is over. :mrgreen:

Well at least that's something to look forward to.



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17 Nov 2020, 8:00 am

HighVamp913 wrote:
Yes grand inquisitor. I would love to learn more about chess. And play cards. I am very competitive but have good sportsmanship. You can talk to me about the girls you are interested in and I can give advice and be a "wing-man" :) Girls are complicated but at the same time were not, we just got a hard time trusting. :| Other than that we are loyal companions. And unlike most I don't like drama. So friends? :smile:

Yeah sure.

There currently aren't any girls I'm interested in, and that's mainly because I don't really know any, but also because I know that nothing good can come of letting myself fall for someone, because they'll never feel the same way.

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TGI having a female friend/companion, when he goes to places, would make TGI more attractive.
This is human nature.
People want what other people have, sort of thing.
Go figure. ;)

It'd also serve as "social proofing". Women seeing that I have female friends, and that I have their trust would be more likely to judge me as someone who has some level of social competence, and who's safe to be around.



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17 Nov 2020, 8:02 am

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HighVamp913 wrote:
Yes grand inquisitor. I would love to learn more about chess. And play cards. I am very competitive but have good sportsmanship. You can talk to me about the girls you are interested in and I can give advice and be a "wing-man" :) Girls are complicated but at the same time were not, we just got a hard time trusting. :| Other than that we are loyal companions. And unlike most I don't like drama. So friends? :smile:

Yeah sure. There currently aren't any girls I'm interested in, and that's mainly because I don't really know any, but also because I know that nothing good can come of letting myself fall for someone, because they'll never feel the same way.

i was hoping you two could at least start from square one and possibly at least maybe be penpals perhaps? :idea: gotta start somewhere, they say.